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Nadal must win Cincy to have a chance at the USO

Nadal has never passed the semis at Cincy, just as the USO. I dont think its a coincidence cos its similar conditions to the USO and he has lost to Djokovic in the last two years. Murray has beaten Roger in the Toronto final, which makes him more of a favorite since hes never beaten Roger in any final. At least he is showing us something new.

I feel like Nadal must do something similar here. He must show he can beat Roger in the semis here and then go on to win the tournament. If he loses in the final it would be just more confirmation that he is not comfortable on the hard courts. I think people tend to undermine the importance of these run-up events to easily, especially for the guys who has never won the USO, let alone make the final.

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Re: Nadal must win Cincy to have a chance at the USO

I think it would help if he had a win over one or two of the top guys here this week, it certainly couldn't hurt. He doesn't need to win though, Rafa has 8 slams, two this year, he doesn't need the confidence but a good showing here might help lessen the belief of some opponents at USO. He needs to find some form first though, or he isn't winning anything.
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Re: Nadal must win Cincy to have a chance at the USO

I think even if he doesn't admit it, yes he needs a big result here to validate his chances of winning at the Open in a couple of weeks. Even if the big result doesn't happen, I still think anything's possible. Yes, Murray may look like a favorite right now after winning Toronto, but he might go into the US Open and completely blow his chance, like he's done so many other times at other slams too, so keep that in mind.

But back to Rafa, yes, I think Cincy is important for him and I expect him to learn from the mistakes he made last week in Toronto, and play much more aggressive and smarter this week.

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Re: Nadal must win Cincy to have a chance at the USO

It would help for sure, but its by no means a law.

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Re: Nadal must win Cincy to have a chance at the USO

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I feel like Nadal must do something similar here. He must show he can beat Roger...


I am fine if Rafa tanks his 1/4 match. On the other hand, I am not sure Roger will not tank his 1/4 match if Rafa plays first and wins.

In any case Cinci match means little for USO chances.
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has he ever beaten roger at cincy or the USO?
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has he ever beaten roger at cincy or the USO?
They've never played at either...
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has he ever beaten roger at cincy or the USO?
have they ever played at cincy or the USO?

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Re: Nadal must win Cincy to have a chance at the USO

It's obviously not "necessary", but it would be a huge mental boost to win the big lead in event with the closest conditions to the US Open and beat a couple of big name players along the way. He's a different beast over 5 sets though.

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has he ever beaten roger at cincy or the USO?
Roger will shit the bed, just like he has every other time he sees Rafa across the net.

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have they ever played at cincy or the USO?
how is that relevant? roger has won cincy 3 times and the USO 5 times. nadal has never been past the semis of either!
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Roger will shit the bed, just like he has every other time he sees Rafa across the net.
nadal is no match for federer on fast hard. you cant even begin to compare the two. ever.
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how is that relevant? roger has won cincy 3 times and the USO 5 times. nadal has never been past the semis of either!
Well I would say it is quite relevant as it is impossible to beat someone if you don't play them.
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Well I would say it is quite relevant as it is impossible to beat someone if you don't play them.
but you dont know who will win do you? in fact federer should be the favorite since they are equal in h2h on hard but fed has a far superior record than nadal on fast hard.
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