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Remaining Serve Volleyers

I can think of:

Taylor Dent
Rajeev Ram
Ivan Navarro
Mario Ancic
Richard Bloomfield
Chris Eaton

Who else is there?
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Not a pure serve and volleyer, but Lopez does it a lot on grass


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Brands is capable of this as well. He can pull off any tactic. See 2009 RG R1.

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I would even take Petzschner and Ancic off the list

There aren't many left, are there?

Not even one of them in top 30 (if we don't count Lalo who isn't the cleanest s&v player and if we assume Radek's fair position in the 50s..)

tsonga used to do this more often b4 and he was much more attractive back then, compared to now when he figured out he can play BH and stay more on the baseline.

Llodra is my fav s&v player and even though very prone to tanking, i still have some respect for the guy.
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Micha Zverev plays S&V too but isn´t in the top 100 anymore.

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Originally Posted by _Chaz View Post
Micha Zverev plays S&V too but isn´t in the top 100 anymore.
ah, true, forgot about this one.

Makes me remember Gilles Muller who does it as well.
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The pity of the serve and volley tactic is that has now become the domain of the journeyman.

In previous decades many attackers were all court players or baseliners who converted their game. Many of those players could play from the baseline and from the net, moved well and could return serve well to create opportunities.

The last 7 years however have seen a glut of serve volleyers who couldn't return serve well and couldn't stay in a rally for more than a few shots at best, hence the over chipping and charging tactic. Its disappointing and I don't really enjoy watching the current breed of serve and volleyers.

To give some examples. Chris Eaton really struggles to stay in any rally. I mentioned some tiome ago how surprised I was when I saw Dent play against Roddick at Queens. His backhand and return of serve were so technically poor. And that was in 2003 before all of the injury issues.

Who knows what will happen in future. If for instance, Indoor events decide for some reason to pull up the hard courts and go back to carpet courts (after all we keep hearing how punishing hard courts are on the body, and then they put them indoors as well ) Then maybe more players might use the tactic.

In 2005 Jim Courier was interviewed on BBC radio during Wimbledon, he said that the removal of carpet courts in his opinion was the main reason for the decline of attacking players. If the better players use the tactic more, then the level will rise naturally.
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Fish and Llodra are the only 2 who can beat top ten guys playing S&V. Petzchner is the one to watch as well. Maybe Stepanek as well if he gets his form back.
All others are not consistent enough to be top 50 players.

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Petzschner isn't really S&V anymore... pity.

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Originally Posted by Allez View Post
Nadal is by far the most naturally talented player of all time and that is the reason his stay at the top is a lot longer than players like Federer etc were able to do.
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So basically any one dimensional boring player who might get a sniff at the top 50 on a good week.

PS I understand Fish/Llodra/Stepanek are also quite good!


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Originally Posted by laurie-1 View Post
Interesting post.

Mahut also said that indoor tournaments were slower on the whole but didn't complaint about it. "The audience like it better" he said. I'm part of the audience and I really preferred the carpet.

What I find funny is that Federer found as an excuse for his boycott of Bercy that carpet wasn't good for his balance (if I'm not mistaken) while hard court is certainly not any better.

But didn't Courier talk about the racket and string technology evolution? I think the explanation may also be found there.

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