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Why the french aren't successful in tennis???

I mean,they've been successful in every other popular sports at one point in the last 20 years(football,rugby,athletics,swimming,handball,b asketball) bar one: tennis.
And nevertheless,it's one of France's most popular sports.
It's really strange as it's not like they are chokers in other sports but in tennis,they are generally awful considering the number of registered players they have and their ressources.
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Re: Why the french aren't successful in tennis???

richie ranting about Gasquet again.
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richie ranting about Gasquet again.
Who the hell is that richie??
Anyway it's about the whole french tennis i'm ranting
Clownga,Mugfils,Pushmon,Gascoke,PcHokeM,etc.......
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Re: Why the french aren't successful in tennis???

Does any other nation have more players in the top 100 bar spain.

Also apart from Switzerland and Spain there aren't many nations winning grandslams. What a crappy thread.

If the thread was why the UK aren't successful at tennis you might have a point but this is just dumb.

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Couldn't you think of a name that doesn't sounds exactly like richie21 if you want to pretend it's not you? There are literally infinite names to choose from...
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Does any other nation have more players in the top 100 bar spain.

Also apart from Switzerland and Spain there aren't many nations winning grandslams. What a crappy thread.

If the thread was why the UK aren't successful at tennis you might have a point but this is just dumb.
List all the countries which won a GS in the last 25 years and then you'll see that it's far from being only Spain and Switzerland
But France aren't in that list!
Oh and don't talk about UK as tennis is not even close to be as important there as in France(just compare the number of registered players or the number of tennis courts in both countries).
Oh and despite that,UK have still won more Master Series in the last 20 years than France so if anything,they've overrachieved comparing to France.
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Couldn't you think of a name that doesn't sounds exactly like richie21 if you want to pretend it's not you? There are literally infinite names to choose from...
Yuri27=Richie21 of course...........
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Who the hell is that richie??
Anyway it's about the whole french tennis i'm ranting
Clownga,Mugfils,Pushmon,Gascoke,PcHokeM,etc.......
if you are talking about all eras why did you just restrict your rant in this post to current players then.

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List all the countries which won a GS in the last 25 years and then you'll see that it's far from being only Spain and Switzerland
But France aren't in that list!
Oh and don't talk about UK as tennis is not even close to be as important there as in France(just compare the number of registered players or the number of tennis courts in both countries).
Go ahead, do it. It would be really interesting to see the number of registered players and tennis courts in France vs UK. Would go a long way towards explaining the discrepancy in results despite the massive amount of money spent in the UK on Tennis.
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Go ahead, do it. It would be really interesting to see the number of registered players and tennis courts in France vs UK. Would go a long way towards explaining the discrepancy in results despite the massive amount of money spent in the UK on Tennis.
Number of registered players: 1.100.000 in France,110.000 in UK


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From the locker room to the media centre, everybody was asking why one of the wealthiest governing bodies in tennis, with an annual budget of £600 million, can struggle to produce world-class players. Below are a few steps we could take which would help address some of the issues.

1 Increase our talent pool - Right now this is way too small because we simply do not have enough people playing the game. We have a similar population to France but they have 10 times as many clubs and 10 times as many registered players.

They also have more men and women in the top 100 than any other country. That's no coincidence. So why not look at what France has done over the last 20 years and grow the game by investing heavily in places to play and people to drive activity?

The two go hand-in-hand. Courts without a local tennis workforce and fun, stimulating activity are a waste of space. Tennis has to make itself attractive to kids and adults but it must also be affordable, accessible and welcoming or they will just find another sport to try.

2 Put the emphasis on talent development - Over the past four years, the Lawn Tennis Association has invested in an elaborate talent identification system operated nationally by a team of over 30 coaches. It targets children aged 7-10, puts them through a battery of physical and tennis tests and awards an element of funding according to the results.

I don't think it's so difficult to identify coordinated, athletic kids who have a feel for the game and a love of competition but the key is in the development of that talent. We have to ensure that those identified have access to a local tennis environment that has lots of other kids to hit and compete with, and a coach who understands how to instil the basics of stroke production, movement patterns and a love of the game.

There are still huge pockets of the country where that cannot or does not happen and parents have to travel long distances for both training and competition.

3 Invest in the tennis workforce - Much has been written about the many and highly paid foreign coaches who have been brought in by the LTA over the last few years.

Some have been effective and some have not, but the likes of Peter Lundgren, Brad Gilbert, Louis Cayer and Paul Annacone, who have all worked with grand slam champions, should be involved in a structured mentoring programme for some of our most promising and committed British coaches, rather than using their experience and expertise solely with our best players. If we invest in developing world-class British coaches, surely we would have a better shot at developing world class players.

4 Develop a winning mentality - Because we have so few kids playing at a high level domestically, there has been a tendency to over indulge the best ones from a young age partly because we are so desperate to find a champion but also to keep them in the game. It's still too easy to be a big fish in a small pond in British tennis. That won't change overnight but tennis is a sport where only the toughest survive and if we want to create winners from our talent pool, we must ensure that the very best are nurtured in a competitive and international training environment.

5 Climate change - Our weather doesn't help. Tennis is an outdoor sport but we are forced indoors for more than half of the year. Indoor courts are expensive – £18 an hour on average – and few and far between. So we are back to accessibility and affordability, again.
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Chokers.
But not in other sports.Why?
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Can't wait for Har-Tru to weigh in on this one.

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Number of registered players: 1.100.000 in France,110.000 in UK
Interesting. I like the point about the awful weather, that could be a reason UK is pretty bad at all sports compared to the other european powers
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