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post #1 of 40 (permalink) Old 08-13-2010, 11:55 AM Thread Starter
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Is it harder to win GS or WTF?

I'll say that is harder to win WTF because for GS you have to play your best for two weeks and have max. 3 toough opponents and for WTF you have be consitent whole year and win 4 or 5 matches against top 8 players in just one week. OK, teoretically you can win it with just 3 wins

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post #2 of 40 (permalink) Old 08-13-2010, 12:08 PM
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Re: Is it harder to win GS or WTF?

IMO it´s definately harder to win a major than the WTF..

- at the WTF you play best of three

- a lot of (the betterplayers) struggle physically after such a long season at the WTF so there´s a chance for lower ranked guys f/e the 8th ranked.

- with one loss or two you can still win the WTF .. at a major you´re immediately out

- at the WTF you play best of three, 5 matches (if you make it to the final), in one week.
at a major you play best of five, 7 matches (if you make it to the final), in two weeks.
Compared it looks like the same level of difficulty

- and the last one.. I mean let´s look at the Winner and Runner ups at the WTF in the past years.

2009: W: Nikolai Davydenko ; RU: Juan Martin Del Potro
2008: W: Novak Djokovic ; RU: Nikolai Davydenko
2007: W: Roger Federer ; RU: David Ferrer
2006: W: Roger Federer ; RU: James Blake

In the last 4 years there are 3 players as the Winner or Runner Up who didn´t even make it to a Slam final and James Blake didn´t even reach a Slam SF.. Djokovic is considered as a 1 Slam woner till he shows up again.

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Re: Is it harder to win GS or WTF?

Technically it should be harder to win the WTF since you play all matches against the top 8 guys. But when you consider draws and the best of 5 scenario, it can be tougher to win a slam. Having said that, have seen some slam draws that were pathetically easy.

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Re: Is it harder to win GS or WTF?

GS, of course.

Players that never reached a slam final like Davydenko have won WTF.
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Re: Is it harder to win GS or WTF?

Depends. If you're a hardcourt specialist then a slam will be harder to win. IF you're a clay court player then WTF.
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GS, of course.

Players that never reached a slam final like Davydenko have won WTF.
That's crap logic because it works in both ways, i.e. Nadal has 8 slams but he has never played a WTF final.
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That's crap logic because it works in both ways, i.e. Nadal has 8 slams but he has never played a WTF final.
Yeah but Nadal is a guy who can´t play such a long season and show up his best at the WTF not like Fed who seems to be fit pretty much anytime.
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Re: Is it harder to win GS or WTF?

WTF

and i mean What The F...?

Is it harder to win the beach tennis gran prix or the 24H of Le Mans?

that would make more sense as a question
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That's crap logic because it works in both ways, i.e. Nadal has 8 slams but he has never played a WTF final.
Like you said in your previous post, it depends on the surface players like to play on. Nadal is at his best on clay and his worst surface is Hard Courts, especially indoors. And since Hard Court players are the most rewarded in the rankings, Nadal generally plays the Masters with 6 or 7 players for whom the conditions are ideal or close to it.
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Yeah but Nadal is a guy who can´t play such a long season and show up his best at the WTF not like Fed who seems to be fit pretty much anytime.
Wilander also has 7 slams but no WTF. Courier has 4 slams and 0 WTF.
Furthermore Coretja is the only spaniard that has ever won WTF.
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That's crap logic because it works in both ways, i.e. Nadal has 8 slams but he has never played a WTF final.
YEC is not what it used to be. Now with the BO3 it's like a glorified Masters Series.
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Re: Is it harder to win GS or WTF?

Wtf.
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YEC is not what it used to be. Now with the BO3 it's like a glorified Masters Series.
One might say the same about Wimbledon. Once it was the holyland of S&v players, now it's green clay.
Is Wimbledon a less important slam nowadays ?
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Re: Is it harder to win GS or WTF?

There is a reason why Nadal hasn't won a YEC yet.

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Re: Is it harder to win GS or WTF?

its almost certainly harder for the best players to win wtf, the better you are the bigger difference in difficulty. and then you have people like nadal whos like 60 65% to win RG and like maybe 20 to win wtf in current form
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GS, of course.

Players that never reached a slam final like Davydenko have won WTF.
wtf of course, players who have never reached wtf have won slams like thomas johansson
that argument doesent help

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But when you consider draws and the best of 5 scenario, it can be tougher to win a slam.
well the more superior to the player you are playing the more you benefit from five sets over three sets and the weaker you are...
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