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Does Federer's loss in fact increase Rafa's chance of winning the title?

That's what McEnroe and his fellow commentator thought. That also seems to be the popular notion. For instance, all betting sites are now tipping Nadal to win the title. But I beg to differ. I think Nadal would have had a huge edge over Fed if they met in the final. Even if he wins against Murray (HUGE "if"), he is less likely to win the title than if he played Fed. IMHO.
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Re: Does Federer's loss in fact increase Rafa's chance of winning the title?

If we look at the facts Federer is the player that gave Nadal the most problems in Wimbledon. I think Fed would be the most dangerous to Rafa although I agree with you that Nadal has the edge over Fed in Slam Finals.
But what does it matter anyway, Fed is out.

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Re: Does Federer's loss in fact increase Rafa's chance of winning the title?

the answer youre looking for is yes, very much so.
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No. Rafa wouldn't have had any problem whatsoever with Federer, the way he has been playing all throughout this tournament. I can well imagine that Rafa is in fact a bit disappointed that he won't meet him now... if he gets there himself of course, it's still not a security.

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I find that weird also, Fed would have been 2nd favorite if a fedal final had occured because nadal knows how to beat fed in GS finals.

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no..... nadal biggest obstacle was never federer.....
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I find that weird also, Fed would have been 2nd favorite if a fedal final had occured because nadal knows how to beat fed in GS finals.
And most certainly THIS Federer, who isn't a shadow of the guy he met in the finals here in 2006, 2007 & 2008!

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Re: Does Federer's loss in fact increase Rafa's chance of winning the title?

Djokovic is a much tougher matchup for Nadal.
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That's what McEnroe and his fellow commentator thought. That also seems to be the popular notion. For instance, all betting sites are now tipping Nadal to win the title. But I beg to differ. I think Nadal would have had a huge edge over Fed if they met in the final. Even if he wins against Murray (HUGE "if"), he is less likely to win the title than if he played Fed. IMHO.
Well I guess it's because Roger was defending champion. But I agree, considering their h2h, Rafa would be favored against Roger, I think.. I'd pick him over Roger.

Now....IF Rafa beats Murray, then he'd be up against...either Birdie or Nole, right? Hmmm...

Yeah, I think Rafa's road is more difficult actually now that Roger is out.

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Djokovic is a much tougher matchup for Nadal.
I happen to doubt that, but a Berdych in top form surely is.

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I happen to doubt that, but a Berdych in top form surely is.
Nadal always beats Berdych these days. Djokovic usually serves well against Nadal. The main thing though is he reads Nadal's serve better than anyone else.
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I believe that the winner of Nadal/Murray will be a strong favourite against Berdych/Djokovic.

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Nadal always beats Berdych these days. Djokovic usually serves well against Nadal. The main thing though is he reads Nadal's serve better than anyone else.
Djokovic already had breathing troubles earlier this week. And Nadal 'always' beating Berdych? Watch out man, the same thing was said about Federer not that long ago, and this Berdych isn't the same guy of a year ago anymore.
'Always' and 'never' are words that shouldn't be used in match prediction threads, unless a player has already ended his career.

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That's what McEnroe and his fellow commentator thought. That also seems to be the popular notion. For instance, all betting sites are now tipping Nadal to win the title. But I beg to differ. I think Nadal would have had a huge edge over Fed if they met in the final. Even if he wins against Murray (HUGE "if"), he is less likely to win the title than if he played Fed. IMHO.
I agree with you, it's logical, from a tennis fan standpoint, but it's not how betting sites works.
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Murray losing in the SF would increase Rafa's chances
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