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Fans and their unrealistic expectations

It always bothers me to hear people say Federer is done or Nadal is no good, or Murray will not challenge for Wimbledon when they lose a match. Sure. Federer should not lose to Hewitt nor should Nadal to Lopez or Murray to Fish. But let's be serious. Everybody loses. Some of these guys have been so consistent. I agree that Murray doesn't even belong in this conversation as he has not won a slam. Still, is it fair for fans to write people off even before the games are played?

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Oh, how timely. "Fans" are unrealistic on the days Roger loses. Right. Got it.
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It always bothers me to hear people say Federer is done or Nadal is no good, or Murray will not challenge for Wimbledon when they lose a match. Sure. Federer should not lose to Hewitt nor should Nadal to Lopez or Murray to Fish. But let's be serious. Everybody loses. Some of these guys have been so consistent. I agree that Murray doesn't even belong in this conversation as he has not won a slam. Still, is it fair for fans to write people off even before the games are played?

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Where was this post two days ago when you were ragging on Rafa for losing? Obviously I agree with the sentiment though.

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Where was this post two days ago when you were ragging on Rafa for losing? Obviously I agree with the sentiment though.
Listen. I admit. I am biased when it comes to Rafa. I don't like the guy. But I don't think he is done, even if I said he was done I do hope he is done though. Makes sense?

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Federer should not lose to Hewitt nor should Nadal to Lopez or Murray to Fish. But let's be serious. Everybody loses. Some of these guys have been so consistent.
In the case of Federer and Murray, consistently bad since AO. That's the problem. Not one or two dumb losses, but many.

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The difference is that Federer won that slam, and he has 16 in overall. Murray is much younger and slamless.
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Listen. I admit. I am biased when it comes to Rafa. I don't like the guy. But I don't think he is done, even if I said he was done I do hope he is done though. Makes sense?
Yes. You're saying the opposite of Federer when he said he didn't hope for it but he believed in it.

You don't believe in it, but you hope for it.
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Yes. You're saying the opposite of Federer when he said he didn't hope for it but he believed in it.
Did Roger really say that? How...like Roger. Just loss even more respect for him. And he was a player that just two years ago, I was a fan of. When people where declaring him over, did Rafael say he was done?
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Did Roger really say that? How...like Roger. Just loss even more respect for him. And he was a player that just two years ago, I was a fan of. When people where declaring him over, did Rafael say he was done?
He never said anything like that, but it doesn't surprise me to see you actually believing it.

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Yes. You're saying the opposite of Federer when he said he didn't hope for it but he believed in it.

You don't believe in it, but you hope for it.
Listen here. Hoping and praying is very powerful. I'll even try Voodoo dulls to see some folks retire from the game. OK maybe not. But no. Rafa is not done. Federer is not done either. The guy just does not hate losing like in the past. And the game is moving on. Is Hewitt an improved version? Not really. Roger should have won it today in 2 sets. He lost, just like he lost to Soderling, just like he lost to Baghdatis, Berdych, and all these people who have no business of beating Roger. But the defeat to Montanos was the worst. That guy has absolutely no business of beating Roger. With that said, if you can't beat Lopez or Fish, you'v got to seriously reevaluate your grass game.

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You forgot Gulbis.

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Anyone can win on any day, this is what i love about tennis.

A lot of people seem to forget this...especially those bastard commentators. i wish they would die.
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pfff... how can you become preoccupied with unimportant details and lose sight of the big picture?
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pfff... how can you become preoccupied with unimportant details and lose sight of the big picture?
I thought the guy who beat Feds at Estoril was worthy of some respect.
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