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Open Era Slam GOATS: Fed 1st, Connors 2nd, Sampras 3rd, Rafa 10th

Here is a link to the Pre Open Era Slam Kings Thread: http://www.menstennisforums.com/show....php?p=9926073

This is a follow-up to my Pre Open Era Slam Kings, which featured all of the slam winners and finalists from 1877 Wimbledon to 1968 Australian Open.

This thread encompasses all players who reached the QF or better at each slam from RG 1968 to the recently completed RG 2010.

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Total slam points:

Federer- 44,240
Connors- 39,520
Sampras- 38,560
Lendl- 37,840
Agassi- 35,920
Borg- 30,160
Johnny Mac- 27,080
Edberg- 26,280
Becker- 24,360
Rafa- 24,000
Wilander- 23,120
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Re: Open Era Slam Kings

Nadal moves up to 7th in the Open Era with his 8th slam.

Pulls even with guys like Lendl, Agassi, and Connors.

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Obviously, you play a lot of mind games with yourself, but it is important to always believe that you can play your best, perform your best, and in the end, your convictions are stronger than your doubts.
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There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things.
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Nadal moves up to 7th in the Open Era with his 8th slam.

Pulls even with guys like Lendl, Agassi, and Connors.
You can just do some fast check of Rafa,Andre,Ivan and Jimmy to see that he is actually 4th.. in front of this 3 legends and behind of just Borg,Sampras and Federer

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Nadal moves up to 7th in the Open Era with his 8th slam.

Pulls even with guys like Lendl, Agassi, and Connors.
Isn't he technially tied 4th
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Isn't he technially tied 4th
Of course... tied 4th with clear advantage compared to this 3 Giants

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Nadal moves up to 7th in the Open Era with his 8th slam.

Pulls even with guys like Lendl, Agassi, and Connors.
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Look at my thread mate, Nadal`s equal 4th already
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Re: Open Era Slam Kings

Yes, he is technically tied with those 3, in terms of slam wins, but Lendl, Connors, and Agassi all have WAY more slam finals, semis, and quarters.

Should Nadal win the USO this year, he'll be alone in 4th behind the big 3 of Federer, Sampras, and Borg.

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Obviously, you play a lot of mind games with yourself, but it is important to always believe that you can play your best, perform your best, and in the end, your convictions are stronger than your doubts.
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Re: Open Era Slam Kings

Updated after the AO results.

Djokovic now moves even with Boris Becker in terms of AO results, slightly behind Jim Courier.

In terms of total slams, Djokovic now moves ahead of (I shit you not) Lleyton Hewitt, Marat Safin, Pat Rafter, Yevgeny Kafelnikov, Stan Smith, Sergi Bruguera, and Johan Kriek.

As for Murray, well, he is the only player in the Open Era to compete in 3 slam finals w/o winning one. Tony Roche also played in 3, but he had won a slam in 1966, before the Open Era.

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Re: Open Era Slam Kings

Good stuff, thanks for this.

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Re: Open Era Slam Kings

I'd suggest building a ranking by giving 1 point per QF, 3 per SF, 6 per RU and 10 per win.
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Or simply using the present system: 360/720/1200/2000 points, to keep the right proportions between the different results.
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Or simply using the present system: 360/720/1200/2000 points, to keep the right proportions between the different results.
Well this is a good idea, and this is what I did:

Total slam points:

Federer- 44,240
Connors- 39,520
Sampras- 38,560
Lendl- 37,840
Agassi- 35,920
Borg- 30,160
Johnny Mac- 27,080
Edberg- 26,280
Becker- 24,360
Rafa- 24,000
Wilander- 23,120

I'll do it by slam at some point too

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If I took the time to respond to every criticism that came across my desk, there would be no time for constructive work.
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Re: Open Era Slam GOATS: Fed 1st, Connors 2nd, Sampras 3rd, Rafa 10th

great work done

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Re: Open Era Slam GOATS: Fed 1st, Connors 2nd, Sampras 3rd, Rafa 10th

Stats mean nothing by themselves. Anyone can give any spin he wants.

Connors ahead of Sampras is a joke and Shankerer at the top is even worse.
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Well this is a good idea, and this is what I did:

Total slam points:

Federer- 44,240
Connors- 39,520
Sampras- 38,560
Lendl- 37,840
Agassi- 35,920
Borg- 30,160
Johnny Mac- 27,080
Edberg- 26,280
Becker- 24,360
Rafa- 24,000
Wilander- 23,120

I'll do it by slam at some point too
Thank you!

Rafa around 10 is more like it, I don't want him to hurry up the slope, I want to enjoy the ride! He seems almost certain to end up catching Borg, reaching Agassi is a reasonable goal, Lendl/Sampras may be a bridge too far.

I love posts like these, thanks again!
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