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View Poll Results: Stronger Field : Clay or Grass?
Clay 14 25.93%
Grass 26 48.15%
Both equally weak 11 20.37%
Both equally strong 3 5.56%
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Stronger Field : Clay or Grass?

We have two of the greatest players on their respective surfaces in the current era. Some have attributed their almost unprecedented dominance due to the lack of surface specialists and an overall weaker field on clay/grass.

While it is clear to many that both would have been successful in any era. It is not so clear the extent of their dominance. So in your opinion, which field is the stronger of the two?

Clay field or the Grass field?
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Re: Stronger Field : Clay or Grass?

I would say it's slightly easier to play hardcourt/neutral tennis effectively at Wimbledon than it is at the French Open, though on the right day at the French, you can clearly get away with it quite easily.
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Re: Stronger Field : Clay or Grass?

The grass field is much stronger and much better to look at.

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Re: Stronger Field : Clay or Grass?

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The grass field is much stronger and much better to look at.
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Re: Stronger Field : Clay or Grass?

There aren't enough tournaments on grass to even answer this properly. There are many more clay and hard court events and nearly all the players grow up playing on hard or clay courts.

If there were a couple grass masters, 500 tournaments, just a longer grass season in general, it would be easier to gauge how strong the grass field is, but the season is simply too short for anyone to make any sort of impact.

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There aren't enough tournaments on grass to even answer this properly. There are many more clay and hard court events and nearly all the players grow up playing on hard or clay courts.

If there were a couple grass masters, 500 tournaments, just a longer grass season in general, it would be easier to gauge how strong the grass field is, but the season is simply too short for anyone to make any sort of impact.
This.

We can't compare clay and grass when one has a proper season and the other hasn't.
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Re: Stronger Field : Clay or Grass?

Grass = Federer/Nadal/Roddick/Murray/Gasquet/Hewitt/Karlovic
Clay = Federer/Nadal/Djokovic/Soderling/Verdasco/Almagro
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Grass = Federer/Nadal/Roddick/Murray/Gasquet/Hewitt/Karlovic
Clay = Federer/Nadal/Djokovic/Soderling/Verdasco/Almagro
agreed. theres the same no. but the skills of the guys in the top group are better e.g. murray
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Re: Stronger Field : Clay or Grass?

Hmmm. Grass slightly. Aside from the top two you have Roddick and Hewitt still scrapping it out there, plus Murray and Gasquet.

Almugro and Verdasco are mental midgets/clowns. Djokovic loses two set leads to journeymen (though I like Jurgen) and while Soderling rules, he is not a clay court type player, more an indoor player.

So grass. But both are poor right now.

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Wouldn't that just further prove my point?

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Clay = Federer/Nadal/Djokovic/Soderling/Verdasco/Almagro
You would put Verdasco and Almagro on this list but not Ferrer?

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Re: Stronger Field : Clay or Grass?

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Grass = Federer/Nadal/Roddick/Murray/Gasquet/Hewitt/Karlovic
Clay = Federer/Nadal/Djokovic/Soderling/Verdasco/Almagro
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Re: Stronger Field : Clay or Grass?

nadal is too good on clay. söderling would rather be a grass court player than a clay court player.
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Re: Stronger Field : Clay or Grass?

The sad answer is: hard.

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The sad answer is: hard.
The only surface that does not need real skill to play on: just a powerful serve and a pair of bombs per side to win each point.

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