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Has tennis turned into a battle of backhands?

once the serve is in and the rally begins, we have 2 or 3 shots exchanged between backhands, then a forehand and then again an event of backhand exchanges finally resulting in an error.......this has been the predominant pattern of tennis of late for many players........the role of forehand seems to have changed to an extent that players have almost forgotten the fact that forehands too can be attacked and it's all about opening up the court on either wing to win a point.......

allejandro falla's tactics against fed yesterday gives us something to think about today's tennis.......falla kept it simple yesterday, hit the ball where it was meant to be hit without any kind of negativity.......i mean to say he went after fed's forehand when he was supposed to, unlike the clowns who keep going to his backhand and play right into his hands even when there's a huge opening on his forehand.......why falla lost the match is another story but din't he trouble fed a lot in the first set? had it not been for his mental fragility, he would have pushed a player like fed to 4 sets minimum or even 5 sets on clay which is quite a big thing for him.......

forehand today is being used just to force the issue and players are relying more on their backhands to defend and attack as well.......falla proved yesterday that not only rafa but also fed struggles when you attack him on the forehand.......why is this so? rafa and fed are so used to receiving balls on the backhand that they are not being tested much on their forehands........once someone comes along and plays cleverly like falla, it's of no surprise that they both seem to struggle somewhat.......why they also succeed so much than the others is they realize this very thing and are not afraid of attacking players on their forehand when an opportunity presents.......rafael goes after djokovic's and murray's forehands and opens up the court beautifully.......

has tennis turned into a contest of backhands? yesterday when i caught some action, juan ignacio chela almost choked while hitting forehands and wasn't breathing out of fear until he got the ball back on his backhand, like if he had no trust in his forehand.......

are the players thinking too much along the lines of defensive tennis? why so much hesitance to go after the opponent's forehand even on a clear opening? is backhand starting to become the stronger shot of players today? rafa and fed who possess the best forehands by far on the tour can be excluded from this topic, it's mainly about the ones that are below them.......
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Re: Has tennis turned into a battle of backhands?

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rafa and fed who possess the best forehands by far on the tour.......
Outside clay, Nadal's forehand doesn't even compare to Fed's. Fed's FH is being agrued as the best shot ever in tennis, while there are players right now that hit better FHs than Nadal. No, Nadal doesn't posses the best forehand by far on tour. But on clay, it's another story, though.

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Re: Has tennis turned into a battle of backhands?

Nope.
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Re: Has tennis turned into a battle of backhands?

Blake, Gonzalez, Verdasco, etc.

Forehand tennis lives on, for now anyway.

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"Federer struggles when you attack him on the forehand"


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Re: Has tennis turned into a battle of backhands?

nole has a crappy powderpuff forehand these days ever since he changed to HEAD, when he used wilson, damn he really knew how to crush a forehand.
murray's forehand will never be a big weapon regardless what racquet he uses.
for both those guys, their backhand is their bread and butter shot.

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Too many dots for me.
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no a solid forehand is more important.
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No.

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Blake, Gonzalez, Verdasco, etc.

Forehand tennis lives on, for now anyway.
I think OP's point is, that its practically a given these days that everyone's forehand is dangerous. So, coupled with the trend towards defensive tennis, players spend most of the time neutralizing each other, keeping the ball deep in the BH corner, waiting for an error or an opportunity to attack with the forehand.
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I think OP's point is, that its practically a given these days that everyone's forehand is dangerous. So, coupled with the trend towards defensive tennis, players spend most of the time neutralizing each other, keeping the ball deep in the BH corner, waiting for an error or an opportunity to attack with the forehand.
yes...basically the question is, has the role of forehand changed? is backhand being given more importance than forehand? is it good or bad for the game? most of the players these days defend better off the backhand wing but still they keep trading shots between backhands.......

are players losing faith in forehand and using it just to go for broke? in general, the consistency level of forehand is definitely dropping.......more errors are from that wing and not many players are confident of stringing together even 3 or 4 good forehands in a point against quality opposition......they are preferring to play safe backhands all day long.......

@paseo

rafael's forehand underwent a few changes with time.......he used to clock forehands at 150-170kmph consistently when he was 17, 18.......once he made his game spin oriented, pace was sacrificed for spins and angles on the court.......

look there's just no one on the tour that can produce the variety of forehands which rafa can.......these days he just doesn't choose to play like how he used to when he was 17.......he sacrificed some of his power for spin.......

who else can whip a ball 12 feet high and get it to dip right in at the very last moment? the curves and the angles.......he can also open up his shoulders and blast a few when needed......

rafa and fed have the best forehands on the tour......fed's forehand is great but the defense of that wing is nothing special.......at least rafa's defense of his forehand is good on clay........push fed to the forehand corner and you will usually see him struggling for timing......his pigeons are real clowns who play right into his hands going after his backhand all the time.......
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rafa and fed have the best forehands on the tour......fed's forehand is great but the defense of that wing is nothing special.......at least rafa's defense of his forehand is good on clay........push fed to the forehand corner and you will usually see him struggling for timing......his pigeons are real clowns who play right into his hands going after his backhand all the time.......
Soderling, Verdasco, Del Potro and Gonzalez all have better forehands than Nadal -- off clay, at least. And you're saying that Federer has pigeons? Federer?

When was the last time Nadal lost to one of his pigeons -- namely the Spanish twits like Almugro and the aforementioned Verdasco?
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Re: Has tennis turned into a battle of backhands?

I would say a lot of tennis has turned into attacking weaknesses, whatever they may be on that day.

So yes, its rare to see people give Gonzalez for instance many looks to his forehand, simply b/c his bh is so much weaker.

Otoh its rare for people to want to rally to Nalbandian's bh, as his fh side is much more error prone.

But yea, generally speaking a cc rally shot is a much safer shot than going down the line, b/c players are so fast these days and they can run those down and really hurt you if they get to it. Everyone seems to have some decent counterpunching ability
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