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Rafa playing Madrid was a mistake according to Lendl

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Some interesting opinions offered here in regards to upcoming French Open tournament.

Do you think Nadal made a mistake by "sweeping" all clay masters and overextended himself? Did Federer really gain more from the loss than Nadal from his win? Does the fact that Nadal's level seemed to drop as he progressed through the tournament will carry on to RG? Is there a "ball basher" who can capitalize on this?

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Re: Rafa playing Madrid was a mistake according to Lendl

Had he played Barcelona as well, then he might have overplayed. As it is, I don't think Madrid was a mistake. Last year Federer, who is a lesser clay-court player, didn't seem to have too much trouble adjusting to R.G. after winning Madrid. It wouldn't surprise me if Nadal showed the same form at R.G. as he showed at Monte Carlo.

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Re: Rafa playing Madrid was a mistake according to Lendl

I don't think his levels dropped because he was get fatigued, I think different conditions in MC compared with Rome and Madrid coupled with the class of players he played getting tougher(though the flat Dologopov performance was an exception to this). Unlike last year when he entered this tourney injured and with lots on his plate, he says he's fit this year and skipped Barcelona, fatigue should come into it much

But I agree wholeheartedly that he should have sat out Madrid. It's a stupid, disorganized, badly timed Masters.

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Re: Rafa playing Madrid was a mistake according to Lendl

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Had he played Barcelona as well, then he might have overplayed. As it is, I don't think Madrid was a mistake. Last year Federer, who is a lesser clay-court player, didn't seem to have too much trouble adjusting to R.G. after winning Madrid. It wouldn't surprise me if Nadal showed the same form at R.G. as he showed at Monte Carlo.
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Re: Rafa playing Madrid was a mistake according to Lendl

Ya, he's in real danger of losing this one.

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Re: Rafa playing Madrid was a mistake according to Lendl

Madrid is not well timed, but it wasn't a mistake to play it because he didn't play Barcelona, had he played both, then yeah, that would have been stupid

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Re: Rafa playing Madrid was a mistake according to Lendl

Great article, agree completely.

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Re: Rafa playing Madrid was a mistake according to Lendl

lendl is absolutely right here on the technical side of things, but he isn't the most patriotic man. He wouldn't understand that Nadal was playing for his nation more for than the points. Typical Lendl, right on the logic but off on the emotions.
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Re: Rafa playing Madrid was a mistake according to Lendl

I don't see a reason why Nadal should not have bagged that master title. Nadal can adjust to RG with ease. Every win will make him tougher to beat.

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Nadal wasn't injured.

Madrid is a mandatory tournament.

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Re: Rafa playing Madrid was a mistake according to Lendl

He is just jealous with Rafa catch his 28 clay court titles in Madrid

Seriously,I think this was very important tournament for Rafa cause he finally collected all 3 clay court Masters 1000 titles in one season (last 5 years with two titles) and don't think it will be problem for him to adapt conditions in Paris

And for the record.. he didn't skip any Masters 1000 event in 2007,2008,2009 and this year

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Re: Rafa playing Madrid was a mistake according to Lendl

Not really, he didn't play Barcelona.

If he had played Barcelona and Madrid, that could of been a problem.

He was playing a Tournament and then taking a Week's break.

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Re: Rafa playing Madrid was a mistake according to Lendl

Nadal - correct to play as a week between each tournament and will win FO.
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Re: Rafa playing Madrid was a mistake according to Lendl

Ofcourse it was a bad idea when you think that the only thing that can make Nadal fall in RG is overscheduling and not beeing 100%. If he increased the chanse of losing in RG from 10% to 20% it was a huge mistake to play in Madrid, he should really put the priorities right and that should be to increase his legend by winning grand slams.
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Re: Rafa playing Madrid was a mistake according to Lendl

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Do you think Nadal made a mistake by "sweeping" all clay masters and overextended himself? Did Federer really gain more from the loss than Nadal from his win? Does the fact that Nadal's level seemed to drop as he progressed through the tournament will carry on to RG? Is there a "ball basher" who can capitalize on this?

No, no, no and no.
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