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Who would you consider "The King Of Grass"...

Rogie or Sampras?

Sampras: 10 career grass titles (1 Manchester, 2 Queen's Club, and 7 Wimbledons), tied with Rogie for most career Wimbledon finals with 7, 101-20 career record on grass.

Rogie: Record of 11 career grass titles (5 Halle and 6 Wimbledons), tied with Sampras for most career Wimbledon finals with 7, has the record for most consecutive Wimbledon finals with 7 (2003-2009), from 2003-2008 won a record 65 straight matches on grass until losing to Rafa in the 2008 Wimbledon F, 72-1 (98.6%) on grass from 2003-2009 (only 16-11 from 1999-2002), and a career record of 88-12 on grass. Needs to do better than 13-8 to surpass Sampras overall on grass, just another 14 wins to have 102 career wins on grass.

I think Rogie's the greatest ever on grass, but it's still left to be determined if Rafa's the best ever on clay because of Bjorn Borg and Guillermo Vilas. However, when it's said and done, Rogie will be "The King Of Grass" and Rafa will be "The King Of Clay". You can say Rafa's feats are harder because with more matches to play there are more chances to lose, but for Rogie there's only about 4-5 weeks per year of grass tournaments, so he gets such few chances to play grass every year, so his feat is amazing too.

Lastly, on a side note: If Rogie wins 1 more AO, 2 more W, and 1 more USO, he'll have the most of 3 of the 4 grand slams in the open era. To me that's an amazing feat. (Tied with Agassi with 4 AO, one behind Sampras with 6 W, and tied with Sampras and Connors with 5 USO). As for FO, Rafa and Borg will top that list, Borg has 6 and Rafa currently has 4.
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Still Sampras.

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one more wimbledon, and federer has this wrapped up.
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one more wimbledon, and federer has this wrapped up.
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its fed.

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go ahead and drag this thread outside now and have a large cow piss on it. the case is closed anyway. clay death has spoken. fed is the best grass court player of all time.

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I do agree, I think Rogie's ownage of grass courts is truly amazing, in some ways more amazing than Rafa's because there's hardly any grass season played, about a month, and no Masters Series events at all on grass unfortunately.
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Rogie or Sampras?

Sampras: 10 career grass titles (1 Manchester, 2 Queen's Club, and 7 Wimbledons), tied with Rogie for most career Wimbledon finals with 7, 101-20 career record on grass.

Rogie: Record of 11 career grass titles (5 Halle and 6 Wimbledons), tied with Sampras for most career Wimbledon finals with 7, has the record for most consecutive Wimbledon finals with 7 (2003-2009), from 2003-2008 won a record 65 straight matches on grass until losing to Rafa in the 2008 Wimbledon F, 72-1 (98.6%) on grass from 2003-2009 (only 16-11 from 1999-2002), and a career record of 88-12 on grass. Needs to do better than 13-8 to surpass Sampras overall on grass, just another 14 wins to have 102 career wins on grass.

I think Rogie's the greatest ever on grass, but it's still left to be determined if Rafa's the best ever on clay because of Bjorn Borg and Guillermo Vilas. However, when it's said and done, Rogie will be "The King Of Grass" and Rafa will be "The King Of Clay". You can say Rafa's feats are harder because with more matches to play there are more chances to lose, but for Rogie there's only about 4-5 weeks per year of grass tournaments, so he gets such few chances to play grass every year, so his feat is amazing too.

Lastly, on a side note: If Rogie wins 1 more AO, 2 more W, and 1 more USO, he'll have the most of 3 of the 4 grand slams in the open era. To me that's an amazing feat. (Tied with Agassi with 4 AO, one behind Sampras with 6 W, and tied with Sampras and Connors with 5 USO). As for FO, Rafa and Borg will top that list, Borg has 6 and Rafa currently has 4.
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I'd say the king of grass is either Willie Nelson or Snoop Dogg
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people forget that wimbledon has been played in green clay for 10 years.
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Maybe, but Rogie has 5 USOs and 4 AOs as well, so he can handle any surface fast or slow.
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Sampras was the king of Grass, Federer is the current king of Grass.
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Fed of course, is it even discussed anymore?

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people forget that wimbledon has been played in green clay for 10 years.
So if it was fast grass, Roger wouldnt win those titles?
I dont think so, his serve is the best so he would still win them.
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