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When it matters: Ljubicic vs Roddick H2H

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Yep but US Open mattered too, did it not?

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Re: When it matters: Ljubicic vs Roddick H2H

Don't forget Ljubo's retirement victory in the second round of the 2002 AO, their first ever meeting, which was followed by that unfortunate choke of the century against Ferreira in the next round.

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Re: When it matters: Ljubicic vs Roddick H2H

the ferreira match still creates knots in my stomach that was ridiculous

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Re: When it matters: Ljubicic vs Roddick H2H

Never mind, the good thing about MTF's obsession with the big names is that whenever "choke of the decade" threads are started, it's always things like the RG 04 final that are mentioned, rather than that Ferreira-Ljubicic match and Koubek's incredible comeback against Saulnier in the same event, which George mentioned in one of these threads. I also find it amazing that Ljubo was still a game away from victory in the fifth set after wasting the huge lead he had, but couldn't get over the finish line.

It's a pity he still has that subpar Slam record, my one remaining hope for him is that he gets to another QF which is still possible outside Wimbledon. I always maintain he had the second easiest run to a Slam SF of the last decade, not the easiest (considering the surface, that honour goes to Grosjean at Wimbledon 2004, just check out the list of giants he beat in that tournament), but there were so many early losses to poor players. Never mind the 2002 AO, I remember my disbelief at him exiting to Vadim Kutsenko in the first round the following year.

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ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I remember this one time when I went on a vacation on the Maldives. That was in the year 2001, I think. I went to this spa. I went to walk around with my girlfriend. I walk in, and we want to book a spa. This guy goes, "AHH, I remember you. You beat Sampras. I saw you on TV." That was like, really, how can you remember me? This guy has probably never been off his island and still knows me. I was a little bit shocked. Then I went to play tennis with him because he was actually the tennis teacher. It was nice.

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2nd or 3rd round match? no.

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2nd or 3rd round match? no.
It mattered quite a bit for Roddick, it's safe to say. And look at it this way, Ljubicic had a third-round meeting with the mighty Flavio Saretta waiting for him if he'd somehow got through, and instead he had to wait over two more years to reach the second week of a Slam. Mind you, I doubt he'd have won in the fifth even if he had taken his setpoint chances in the tiebreak.

The Wit and Wisdom of the Tennis Journalist, Indian Wells 2004

ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I remember this one time when I went on a vacation on the Maldives. That was in the year 2001, I think. I went to this spa. I went to walk around with my girlfriend. I walk in, and we want to book a spa. This guy goes, "AHH, I remember you. You beat Sampras. I saw you on TV." That was like, really, how can you remember me? This guy has probably never been off his island and still knows me. I was a little bit shocked. Then I went to play tennis with him because he was actually the tennis teacher. It was nice.

Q. Were you naked at the time in the spa?

ROGER FEDERER: No. It was at the front desk. I didn't walk in naked.
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Re: When it matters: Ljubicic vs Roddick H2H

For those about that Ferreira choke, try watching with a Croatian live at the venue.

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I do remember the days of RaVeR when being a Croat supporter on MTF seemed to be a masochistic badge of pride, full of disappointment and despair at losing close matches and puzzling over the Croat players' strange inability to win tiebreaks with their huge serves. That's something Ljubicic did well this past week, winning three in a row in his last two matches, but he and Karlovic still have very average records of around 50% considering their service quality.

The Wit and Wisdom of the Tennis Journalist, Indian Wells 2004

ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I remember this one time when I went on a vacation on the Maldives. That was in the year 2001, I think. I went to this spa. I went to walk around with my girlfriend. I walk in, and we want to book a spa. This guy goes, "AHH, I remember you. You beat Sampras. I saw you on TV." That was like, really, how can you remember me? This guy has probably never been off his island and still knows me. I was a little bit shocked. Then I went to play tennis with him because he was actually the tennis teacher. It was nice.

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I do remember the days of RaVeR when being a Croat supporter on MTF seemed to be a masochistic badge of pride, full of disappointment and despair at losing close matches and puzzling over the Croat players' strange inability to win tiebreaks with their huge serves. That's something Ljubicic did well this past week, winning three in a row in his last two matches, but he and Karlovic still have very average records of around 50% considering their service quality.
I find Ljubo's mediocre tb record hard to fathom.

Karlovic is a bottle job, never seen anyone's service performance consistently dip so much from set into tb, when the level should ideally be raised.
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Murray vs. Federer is another one where one player has done much better when it matters most. Murray's up 6-5 overall but Federer is 2-0 in Grand Slams (finals), and 3-0 in finals.

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The Wit and Wisdom of the Tennis Journalist, Indian Wells 2004

ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I remember this one time when I went on a vacation on the Maldives. That was in the year 2001, I think. I went to this spa. I went to walk around with my girlfriend. I walk in, and we want to book a spa. This guy goes, "AHH, I remember you. You beat Sampras. I saw you on TV." That was like, really, how can you remember me? This guy has probably never been off his island and still knows me. I was a little bit shocked. Then I went to play tennis with him because he was actually the tennis teacher. It was nice.

Q. Were you naked at the time in the spa?

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Never mind, the good thing about MTF's obsession with the big names is that whenever "choke of the decade" threads are started, it's always things like the RG 04 final that are mentioned, rather than that Ferreira-Ljubicic match and Koubek's incredible comeback against Saulnier in the same event, which George mentioned in one of these threads. I also find it amazing that Ljubo was still a game away from victory in the fifth set after wasting the huge lead he had, but couldn't get over the finish line.

It's a pity he still has that subpar Slam record, my one remaining hope for him is that he gets to another QF which is still possible outside Wimbledon. I always maintain he had the second easiest run to a Slam SF of the last decade, not the easiest (considering the surface, that honour goes to Grosjean at Wimbledon 2004, just check out the list of giants he beat in that tournament), but there were so many early losses to poor players. Never mind the 2002 AO, I remember my disbelief at him exiting to Vadim Kutsenko in the first round the following year.
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Re: When it matters: Ljubicic vs Roddick H2H

That's the one - although in fairness to Grosjean, virtually every dangerous grass player in his section was taken out by Mayer en route to the quarters, he beat Arthurs, Coria, Ferreira and the Younger Johansson to make his first and so far only Slam QF. But just compare it with Grosjean's SF run the year before, where he had to take on Enqvist in the first round and then beat Ferrero and Henman back to back playing five consecutive days because of rain delays.

The Wit and Wisdom of the Tennis Journalist, Indian Wells 2004

ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I remember this one time when I went on a vacation on the Maldives. That was in the year 2001, I think. I went to this spa. I went to walk around with my girlfriend. I walk in, and we want to book a spa. This guy goes, "AHH, I remember you. You beat Sampras. I saw you on TV." That was like, really, how can you remember me? This guy has probably never been off his island and still knows me. I was a little bit shocked. Then I went to play tennis with him because he was actually the tennis teacher. It was nice.

Q. Were you naked at the time in the spa?

ROGER FEDERER: No. It was at the front desk. I didn't walk in naked.
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