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When Will Federer Actually Decline?

There has been a lot of talk in recent years about Federer declining and being done. After Federer lost in the 2008 Australian Open semis, he looked vulnerable. He looked even more vulnerable after getting crushed in the 2008 French Open. It seemed to most of us, including me, that the tipping point was the 2008 Wimbledon finals in which he lost to Nadal. That seemed to indicate that there was one hurdle he just could not overcome (ie. Nadal) and that he might be too mentally defeated to win slams anymore. Of course, as we know, Federer went on to win the US Open, which proved he could still win slams. However, the questioning came back after the 2009 Australian Open. It still seemed that he was going to have a really tough time mentally in slams. However, he came back and won RG and Wimbledon back to back. He then had kids, had broken the slam record, and lost in the US Open finals to a young Del Potro. Some people expected him to decline simply because the motivation would no longer be there and the up and coming players would have the motivation. However, he managed to win the 2010 Australian Open.

Personally, I have doubted Federer a ton over the last couple years. There have been multiple points where I thought he was done (particularly after 2008 Wimbledon and 2009 Australian Open). But he keeps coming back. ANd lately, I have read multiple articles where writers are saying that we can NEVER count out Federer, and that it would be silly to predict that he will not win slams.

But, the fact is, that at some point, he WILL stop winning slams. We cant just keep assuming that he will win again and again, because it will stop eventually. His semifinal streak will get broken. He will stop being a virtual shoe in for slam finals. And he will stop winning slams every year. But when will that be? It has to be some point, and I think it will be random and rather hard to see coming.

I think that Federer will continue dominating this year. However, next year Federer will suddenly no longer be the shoe in to go to the final rounds of slams that he is now. I think he will still win a slam next year, but he will also go out in the quarterfinals or fourth round of a couple of them. Then in 2012, I think he will fail to win a slam, but will make some deep runs (maybe a finals, certainly a semis).
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Re: When Will Federer Actually Decline?

I believe the real question here is 'When will the mug era actually grow some balls and cut short this sissy's rein?'. It is hard to imagine such an old man with no real movement and piss poor backhand winning slams in any other era.. any unbiased person can see that. This over-inflated ego is the product of years of choking mugs, pushers, clowns and fixers that have plagued tennis and he will only decline when tennis rises from the ashes.
But till this glorious day arrives and this dark age ends we must tolerate the Ego Lord and his gloryhunting fans for the sake of tennis.

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1. Fed 2. Djoker 3. Murray 4. Nadal. Just ask injured Darcis how good he is.
Peak Clay level:
1. Djoker (smoked peak Nadal with ease) and Fed (bagelled peak nadal on clay) 2. Murray (just utterly embarrassed Nadal) 3. Nadal.
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I believe the real question here is 'When will the mug era actually grow some balls and cut short this sissy's rein?'. It is hard to imagine such an old man with no real movement and piss poor backhand winning slams in any other era.. any unbiased person can see that. This over-inflated ego is the product of years of choking mugs, pushers, clowns and fixers that have plagued tennis and he will only decline when tennis rises from the ashes.
But till this glorious day arrives and this dark age ends we must tolerate the Ego Lord and his gloryhunting fans for the sake of tennis.



you have outdone yourself.... :retard:
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This over-inflated ego is the product of years of choking mugs, pushers, clowns and fixers that have plagued tennis and he will only decline when tennis rises from the ashes.
But till this glorious day arrives and this dark age ends we must tolerate the Ego Lord and his gloryhunting fans for the sake of tennis.
Too bad Rafito is so average that he can't seem to get past those joke of players most of the time...
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I believe the real question here is 'When will the mug era actually grow some balls and cut short this sissy's rein?'. It is hard to imagine such an old man with no real movement and piss poor backhand winning slams in any other era.. any unbiased person can see that. This over-inflated ego is the product of years of choking mugs, pushers, clowns and fixers that have plagued tennis and he will only decline when tennis rises from the ashes.
But till this glorious day arrives and this dark age ends we must tolerate the Ego Lord and his gloryhunting fans for the sake of tennis.
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I believe the real question here is 'When will the mug era actually grow some balls and cut short this sissy's rein?'. It is hard to imagine such an old man with no real movement and piss poor backhand winning slams in any other era.. any unbiased person can see that. This over-inflated ego is the product of years of choking mugs, pushers, clowns and fixers that have plagued tennis and he will only decline when tennis rises from the ashes.
But till this glorious day arrives and this dark age ends we must tolerate the Ego Lord and his gloryhunting fans for the sake of tennis.
Too bad Rafito in the process of staying close to the "old man with no real movement" destroyed his knees and body...

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no real movement? are you for real?

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Re: When Will Federer Actually Decline?

My Gosh people Federer is 28 eight years old. Get real. In most sports that would only about half way into a career.

Sure tennis usually has a shorter spam, but still we are talking about a 28 year old guy here. With one of the smoother game ever. Is plain ridiculous to talk about a guy still in his tweenties in that manner.

Wait he is at least into his 30 to have some kind of reasoning. And even so a lot of players began playing some of their best tennis into their early thirties...Henman, Moya, Lubjicic, Kiefer, Haas, Davydenko is nearly 29 and is having his best period ever..


I think people are getting the wrong idea because some guys area breaking out so soon, such as Djokovic, Nadal, Del Potro and Cilic. Federer had a more common blossing, starting playing his best tennis just around 22-23. So lose that talk... doesn't make sense in the time being.
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Re: When Will Federer Actually Decline?

When Nadal will be back in full form or when Djokovic and Murray will grow up and mature (and sort out all their problems with gfs).
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Federer will go on winning Slams until the Fedhaters give up and kiss the GOATS feet.

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The day after he retires...

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When Nadal will be back in full form or when Djokovic and Murray will grow up and mature (and sort out all their problems with gfs).
Oh wait, if Murray and Djokovic get owned more often than not by Fed it's because of their gfs... How could it be otherwise

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Re: When Will Federer Actually Decline?

When he loses his movement. From what I saw in the Murray-Fed final, his movement was up with the best I've seen it.

Forget the serve, Federer not moving well loses all timing and precision. He starts spraying errors left, right and centre (and into the net ) continually. He can afford to have a low first serve percentage but move well. For example, Cinci SF and F he didn't serve as well as he can but moved beautifully and took the ball on so early and it made his serve look secondary. I personally don't think he's got many years left at the very top. Many people talk about Connors and Rosewall, about how they played into their late 30s and still had success. The game nowadays is much more physical though, and even if Fed's game is not as taxing on the body it'll eventually catch up with him. It's easy to overlook how many long and gruelling matches he's had to grind out because usually it looks quite effortless.

I predict majors will continue to be his most successful tournaments, but eventually biological decline will kick in. We thought it had already happened in 2008 when he looked to be a step slow but of late that seems to be more and more of a temporary blip in his form rather than something that continued.
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