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The french curse in Grand Slams

How the hell such an addicted-tennis country which have won so many Davis Cups in the last 2 decades and who have produced so many talented players have not managed to even win one Grand Slam for almost 30 years????

People talk about Great Britain's curse but i'd say France's curse is far worse as Great Britain are nowhere near as fond of tennis as France(France have 1.100.000 registered tennis players) and they have nowhere near as many players in top 100 as France.

This said,i think Great Britain will soon end their curse as i can't see Andy Murray not winning a Grand Slam in the next few years.....and that will make France's curse look even more embarassing.

I don't see any of the current french players capable of winning a Grand Slam.
Tsonga's game is way too risky and his movement is sub-par comparing to the top players.
Monfils is just not talented enough to win a Grand Slam.
Simon has no weapons
and Gasquet......well,better to not say anything(even though i think he's got a small chance at Wimbledon as bar Nadal and Murray,the new young players don't seem to excel on grass so the door will be opened once Federer will decline)

List of the countries which have won a Grand Slam from the last 30 years:
Australia,USA,Russia,Serbia,Croatia,Swizerland,Swe den,Spain,Germany,Argentina,Holland,Czech Republic,Equator,Brazil,Austria and probably very soon,Scotland.
Guess which country is missing......

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Guess which country is missing......
i dont know... Chile?

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The fact that Leconte, Pioline, Grosjean, Gasquet, Monfils & Tsonga~~~ etc. have failed to win even 1 major between them points to the fact that despite all their talent, the French don`t compete very well on the biggest [most pressured] situations!!

BTW, i still think Tsonga is a good shot to win a Slam~~~ so i`d rest my hopes on him [Monfils & Gasquet are headcases]. Jo-Willie could actually pull it off, maybe even surprise everyone by winning @ Wimbledon this year^^!
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Yrs, I always thought that was a bit weird. However, you still have some really good players but I'll admit that I don't see any of those winning a GS in the near future. Tsonga winning Wimby this year would be a major shock for me. Come to think of it, any player aside of Federer, Nadal, Murray, Djokovic or Pony boy winning a GS this year would be a major shock to me, tbqh.

Perhaps in a wrose situation Italy is. A country that has invested heavily on tennis and still hasn't produced a player of significant caliber.

Germany seems to be somewhat behind as well. Not to mention the USA.

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It is odd because unlike the UK, France has many good players. They probably have the 2nd best group of players in the world behind Spain.

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i dont know... Chile?
Chile = 0 GS titles in the open era, only Anita Lizana won Forest Hills in 1937.

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The funny thing about France is that the french players are much better on fast courts than on clay.

Having said that, at leats France can consolate with Tsonga 2008 title on Paris Masters. It's not a slam, but it's national.


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Noah won Roland Garros in 1983, that's in the last 30 years. But indeed with the massive amount of good players, it's sad France never won since. But good players are not great players and the French tennis players suffer from the French mentality of not being winners. Tsonga probably has the best shot at it in the next few years, or Monfils in RG.

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Tsonga may win a GS in time but right now there are too many players better than him IMO for him to win one.

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Yep, there seems to be a curse. The good thing is - also curses have an end. And that may happen any time soon!

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Tsonga came within 2 sets, & you never know when he might go on a tear, though he seems to be playing more cautiously now, which gives him a better chance of reaching the 2nd week, but a worse chance of winning matches once he's there. Monfils does have the talent, he just has the same problem as Murray (and Nadal before them, who solved it): how to incorporate enough aggression into a defensive game.

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Tsonga came within 2 sets, & you never know when he might go on a tear, though he seems to be playing more cautiously now, which gives him a better chance of reaching the 2nd week, but a worse chance of winning matches once he's there. Monfils does have the talent, he just has the same problem as Murray (and Nadal before them, who solved it): how to incorporate enough aggression into a defensive game.
You've got to be kidding.
The only french player who has truly world class talent is Gasquet but sadly,he's a headcase and even worse,he doesn't have any pride or will to win("i'm almost happy to lose this match " after his loss against Youznhy ).
Perhaps that he can win Wimbledon considering he is one of the only players of his generation to truly excel on grass(Murray and Nadal being the other two).....but even that is very very low probability.
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The only french player who has truly world class talent is Gasquet but sadly,he's a headcase and even worse,he doesn't have any pride or will to win("i'm almost happy to lose this match " after his loss against Youznhy ).
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So much for them being chokers
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