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Did the grand slam finalists of the 60's-90's cry? Was it seen as showing weakness?

Back in the era of Rod Laver/Fred Stolly/etc through to Bijon Borg/Mcenroe/Connors through to Sampras/Rafter etc, how common was it for a Grand Slam winner or finalist to cry either during their acceptance/runner up speech or after the last ball had been played?

Obviously in all sports I think it's fair to say that men cry more often these days then they used to, some emotional champions cry and some only do it once and hold themselves pretty well.

Would the general public back in the day have called Mcenore a pussy for crying? What about in Rod Lavers era? Peoples attitudes to men showing emotion etc were quite different in those days and even today some people still think men should never cry.

Roger Federer is obviously the best example in todays era, he always crys generally. Rafael Nadal on the other hand tended not to, but he lost it and cried when he won Wimbledon.

Andy Murray cried the other night in losing, and hell Federer seemed to weep after match point, and probably would have cried too in the winner speach if Murray haddn't. Is this acceptable behaviour? Would the public in the 1960's have called these fellas wimps? Did Olympic gold medalists cry back then like they do now? Mind you it's a bit different they place you on a podium with your national anthem playing, it kind of makes you cry.

Do you think Federer deliberatley cries sometimes? I think it was an accident at AO 09 but in the past like Wimbledon 07 say I think he deliberately cried in the sense of trying to and not attempting not to.

Is it acceptable for Grand Slam finalists to bawl their eyes out? Would sobbing suffice? Is the pressure of the biggest moment of an athletes life enough to make it okay, or should they remember that this is JUST TENNIS, especially after what just happened in Hati, and there are bigger things in life?

I have no opinion on this. Does anyone else?
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Crying is hot right now.


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Welcome to the current century where men can actually show emotion.
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They should drink a cup of concrete and harden the f**k up.

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I can handle a little crying in men's tennis but if they start retaining water and calling for a trainer, I'm switching to watching badminton.

I remember Sampras breaking up a few times, but I think it had more to do with Tim Gullikson's illness and death than losing a match. Pretty sad really.
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Yeah. I think there was no crying from the loser at a trophy presentation until Jana Novotna had her breakdown at Wimbledon. And then it was like It was just a major shock to see someone do that.
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yeah, let's keep everything repressed and bottled, is just SO much more healthy

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Yeah. I think there was no crying from the loser at a trophy presentation until Jana Novotna had her breakdown at Wimbledon. And then it was like It was just a major shock to see someone do that.
Wasn't the big shock the fact that she broke protocol and cried on the shoulder of a royal?
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yeah, let's keep everything repressed and bottled, is just SO much more healthy

Not to mention that it is of course a huge sin for 'men' to come across as 'human'. Boy-oh-boy one would have thought that we're some 5 decades past the enlightments of the 1960's by now, but apparently, not yet.

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Wasn't the big shock the fact that she broke protocol and cried on the shoulder of a royal?
Yeah, that was the main 'shock' indeed.

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yeah, let's keep everything repressed and bottled, is just SO much more healthy
Not sure about sadness but letting anger "out" makes you more angry rather than helping.

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Not sure about sadness but letting anger "out" makes you more angry rather than helping.
That's a little different.

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Re: Did the grand slam finalists of the 60's-90's cry? Was it seen as showing weaknes

Seriously, anyone who keeps harping on about the crying is frigid and suppressed - and not in the "Look at me, I'm so macho!!" way.
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Is the pressure of the biggest moment of an athletes life enough to make it okay, or should they remember that this is JUST TENNIS, especially after what just happened in Hati, and there are bigger things in life?
Good post until that last line.
I've seen boxers and hockey players, and lots of athletes weep when they've achieved what they've worked their whole life for. Whether they do or don't is up to how emotional of a person they are, and no one should suggest that because of the latest world tragedy, that they shouldn't.
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