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Federer and the Myth of 6-0 Against Challengers

Have you noticed that everytime someone picks someone against Roger, e.g. Davydenko this year, Federer serves them a bagel set? I remember in 2007 a lot of people said Roger was going to lose to Roddick as Connors was working with Andy. Roger dropped a bagel set on him in AO. Same with Nadal in first Wimbledon. People like Gilbert picked Rafa to beat Roger in his first try. We had a 6-0 in that set as well. Does Roger actually do it on purpose or did the occasion get to these guys? Of course, we all know Rafa more than made up for that defeat but Roddick and Davydenko... that's another story.

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Have you noticed that everytime someone picks someone against Roger, e.g. Davydenko this year, Federer serves them a bagel set? I remember in 2007 a lot of people said Roger was going to lose to Roddick as Connors was working with Andy. Roger dropped a bagel set on him in AO. Same with Nadal in first Wimbledon. People like Gilbert picked Rafa to beat Roger in his first try. We had a 6-0 in that set as well. Does Roger actually do it on purpose or did the occasion get to these guys? Of course, we all know Rafa more than made up for that defeat but Roddick and Davydenko... that's another story.
Did anyone think Nadal could actually beat Roger at Wimby 06? People thought Nadal would skip Wimby that year..

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It isn't a myth ...

The most remarkable was against Hewitt in 2004. Even in November 2003, Federer lost to Hewitt and had almost never beaten him. They played six times that year and Federer finally "worked out" Hewitt and gave him 5 bagels in four consecutive matches (the AO, Hamburg, Wimbledon and two at the US Open final!)

After losing those two matches to Canas in 2007, when they next played in Madrid, Federer opened the match with a bagel!
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Let's hope he bagels Del Potro & Djokovic when he next plays them. And Simon.

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Well. I still remember Roger's win over Roddick in AO 2007 when a whole lot of people talked about "buzz in the air" and everything. As far as Del Potro, I don't think a bagel will happen with him. He had enough bagels in last year's AO.

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Well. I still remember Roger's win over Roddick in AO 2007 when a whole lot of people talked about "buzz in the air" and everything.
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"the gap is closing"
i still laugh at that
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i guess out of the top players, nole and muzza are the only ones who have not been bagelled by fed yet.

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i guess out of the top players, nole and muzza are the only ones who have not been bagelled by fed yet.
i really hope he bagels nole one day and bagels Simon
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Rafa's bagel on Fed was way more impressive.

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i really hope he bagels nole one day and bagels Simon
And he was so close against Djoko in the Cincinnati final last year...



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Rafa's bagel on Fed was way more impressive.
No it wasn't. Fed's 2006 Wimbledon bagel wasn't just incredible tennis, it was a huge psychological victory against a guy he'd been looking as though he couldn't beat, who was now threatening to take away the title that meant most. Nadal's 2008 F.O. bagel was incredible tennis, but it was scored after being 2 sets up & coasting to victory against a player he owned on that surface. There's actually no comparison.

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Rafa's bagel on Fed was way more impressive.
In what way? In that 3rd set, Roger didn't even try very hard. He knew he already lost, and so did Nadal.

It's even less impressive than Fed's bagel on Rafa in Hamburg - even though Rafa was tired in that match.


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No it wasn't. Fed's 2006 Wimbledon bagel wasn't just incredible tennis, it was a huge psychological victory against a guy he'd been looking as though he couldn't beat, who was now threatening to take away the title that meant most. Nadal's 2008 F.O. bagel was incredible tennis, but it was scored after being 2 sets up & coasting to victory against a player he owned on that surface. There's actually no comparison.
Precisely. Also, bagels on clay are easier to score than bagels anywhere else; serve is the least effective there (unless you are dr. Ivo), so with a clear advantage in rallies, you can expect a bagel every now and then. This is highlighted by the fact that Nadal often wins sets like 6-2 whilst playing 'mediocre' by the words of Nadal fans themselves. And I would agree; on clay, cheap points are rarer than on other surfaces, every game is contested, and Nadal doesn't make any difference between games where he serves and those where he receives: he wants to take them all. (Often doing just that, in fact).

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I think it's just coincidence. Don't think it's due to revenge.

In the case of the Davydenko bagel, it was a complete mental let down. Fed didn't have to do much to dish that out.

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And he was so close against Djoko in the Cincinnati final last year...

That wasn't a Grand Slam.
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