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Djokovic or Murray?

They never play each other as they are always seeded 3 and 4. Likely to play each other more now that Djoko has the no 2 spot.
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Re: Djokovic or Murray?

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Re: Djokovic or Murray?

Murray is more serious in his ambitions, Nole still a headcase. Having said that, my vote goes to Nole, more exciting player to watch when on song.

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Djokovic. He is a slam winner.
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Re: Djokovic or Murray?

Djoko in his best vs Murray in his best = Djoko wins.

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For now Novak...plus more explosive game
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Djokovic when he isn't dealing with one of his brain STD's.

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Re: Djokovic or Murray?

Overall, Djokovic by a small margin.
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Djoko in his best vs Murray in his best = Djoko wins.
It's the other way around, IMO.
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Murray.

MTF can't acknowledge that, though. The memory of your average MTF member only extends as far back as the last match that was played. Murray just lost, so that makes him inferior.

Then again, there's always the standard 1 > 0 argument. This also applies to Thomas Johansson. He won a slam, while players like Rios, Nalbandian, Davydenko, etc. haven't. Winning a slam automatically makes you a better player than every player who has failed to do so.
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I'm sure that 1 > 0 would be your favorite argument if the situation were reversed (Murray 1, Novak 0).

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Murray.

MTF can't acknowledge that, though. The memory of your average MTF member only extends as far back as the last match that was played. Murray just lost, so that makes him inferior.

Then again, there's always the standard 1 > 0 argument. This also applies to Thomas Johansson. He won a slam, while players like Rios, Nalbandian, Davydenko, etc. haven't. Winning a slam automatically makes you a better player than every player who has failed to do so.
Why is Johsnddon's accomplishment diminished just because he did not become a big name or consistent top player? The fact is he still has a slam.

So by contrast, would you rather pick a consistent player like Henman? Over a guy that got the big trophy.
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Murray.

MTF can't acknowledge that, though. The memory of your average MTF member only extends as far back as the last match that was played. Murray just lost, so that makes him inferior.

Then again, there's always the standard 1 > 0 argument. This also applies to Thomas Johansson. He won a slam, while players like Rios, Nalbandian, Davydenko, etc. haven't. Winning a slam automatically makes you a better player than every player who has failed to do so.
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Johansson argument just does'nt buy it.

Having said that, I think the match would be very tight, with chances absolutely square.
That, of course, if Novak is not in Dementieva serving mode (then Murray kills him).
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Djokovic for achievement so far, Murray by the end of their respective careers.

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Why is Johsnddon's accomplishment diminished just because he did not become a big name or consistent top player? The fact is he still has a slam.

So by contrast, would you rather pick a consistent player like Henman? Over a guy that got the big trophy.
His accomplishment isn't diminished. It's just a fact that the slams are not the be all, end all. Some very ordinary players have won slams. Far too much emphasis is put on them. I made light of that fact when I pointed out that Del Potro had yet to win one of the 9 real majors (The MS events). It was a joke, but the reality is that majors are only different in terms of their scope. It's the same sport with a bigger draw and longer matches. Does it mean anything that Del Potro found it easier to win a major than he did to win a Masters Series title? We attach far too much importance to the majors. I'm surprised anyone on MTF watches the other tournaments, since the majority seem to think they are insignificant.

As for your question, I do feel Tim had a better career than Johansson. Slam or no slam, Henman is generally thought of as the better player.
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