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(0-2) Mecir, Pioline, Murray...

I'd say that from historical perspective at the moment Murray has reached the level of Miloslav Mecir and Cedric Pioline, at least in the Open Era. Obviously Murray is still young and a prospect to win a Major seems to be wide open for him but you never know, he can win a couple GS tournaments and today's final would be his last as well.

In the Open Era 8 players have had 0-2 in GS finals:
Steve Denton, Kevin Curren, Miloslav Mecir, Cedric Pioline, Todd Martin, Alex Corretja, Mark Philippoussis and Murray.

But the analogy between Murray, Mecir and Pioline is quite obvious - only these three players among the "0-2 eight" haven't won a set in GS finals, all three reached two different finals and lost to the same best player in three different periods:

1986 US Open: Lendl (1) def. Mecir (16) 6-4 6-2 6-0
1989 Australian Open: Lendl (2) def. Mecir (9) 6-2 6-2 6-2

1993 US Open: Sampras (1) def. Pioline (16) 6-4 6-4 6-3
1997 Wimbledon: Sampras (1) def. Pioline 6-4 6-2 6-4

2008 US Open: Federer (2) def. Murray (6) 6-2 7-5 6-2
2010 Australian Open: Federer (1) def. Murray (5) 6-3 6-4 7-6(11)

Other less interesting thing. Murray is quite good in tie-breaks when it comes to 6:6 - has a 11-7 record but among those 7 lost sets, 4 happened against Federer and each time Murray had setpoints (Dubai, Doha, Cincinnati, Melbourne).

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Re: (0-2) Mecir, Pioline, Murray...

The only difference is, Murray has plenty of time and really isn't in the same generation as Federer, whilst the other 2 Pioline and Mecir had to deal with Lendl and Sampras all the time until their careers finished.

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Re: (0-2) Mecir, Pioline, Murray...

Very sad to see Mecir with no GS.

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Re: (0-2) Mecir, Pioline, Murray...

It'll be 1-2 after Wimbledon.

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Very sad to see Mecir with no GS.
+1. He could never shake those back injuries. Great player that has been unfairly forgotten.
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Re: (0-2) Mecir, Pioline, Murray...

Mecir had to deal with a greater overall top tier with Lendl, McEnroe, Becker, Edberg and Wilander than what Murray does, and yes I mean overall strength not just Federer.

Murray does have things in his favour as Byrd mentioned.

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Re: (0-2) Mecir, Pioline, Murray...

Hopefully for Murray's sake he will win a slam someday.
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