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Yet another security breach in a Slam

http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/blog/bus...urn=ten,216332

thankfully the man meant no harm, but this is the third time it has happened in less than two years, the only slam where they haven't been able to reach the players is Wimbledon

one day they want a handshake, the next they have a knife or a gun and who can prevent it?

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i dont get it. i mean i think the fans just really love the players and want to actually give them a handshake. the guy that came down to meet nadal was so loving. but you never know. security, once again shows how incompetent they really are.
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Lol that made me laugh. Pascal Maria was like wigging out in the chair. The dude just walked away, fixing his hat like he was strolling in the park. Hilarious stuff really. Murray didn't realize it, the ballkids, everyone was so oblivious

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Murray should have noticed it, he let him walk over to Cilic's side when shaking hands with Pascal Maria.
But you can't see that on the youtube-thing. I found it here: http://nos.nl/video/132558-samenvatt...rraycilic.html it comes up at 4:55
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still, it is very serious, until they get a Gunther 2.0 they won't do a thing

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still, it is very serious, until they get a Gunther 2.0 they won't do a thing
Exactly. A blooded RF shirt has to happen God forbid.

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I think it's unrealistic to stop everyone getting on to the court. You'd have to surround the court with security staff or build a fence and that would be a bit excessive. You can make sure people don't bring weapons into the stadium and you can make sure security are on top of the situation quickly, but that's all you can do.
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its easy to stop this. they just have to impose a 1 year prison sentence for any fan that comes onto the court.
until they do something like this, there will always be nutjobs coming onto the court
as they know they hardly will get punished at all
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its easy to stop this. they just have to impose a 1 year prison sentence for any fan that comes onto the court.
until they do something like this, there will always be nutjobs coming onto the court
as they know they hardly will get punished at all
it cant be done easily, if at all. prison time is a punishment for a committed crime and as such can only be proscribed by a sovereign state that has a monopoly of force over its territory. usually these types of 'universal' crimes are proscribed by an international convention, but still each state (member of the convention) individually incorporates it into its legal system and that takes time. and those crimes are the worst crimes (war crimes, crimes against humanity, genocide...). hard to imagine an international convention to be made for a particular sport that would oblige states to make it a law.

what can be done is for governing body (atp, itf, wta) to proscribe like a ban from attending tournaments under its jurisdiction but its not a punishment the type of prison obviously. this is also questionable because there would have to be a tracking system for those offenders to keep them away from tournaments, and this would perhaps violate some human rights concerning with privacy of personal related information.

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what can be done is for governing body (atp, itf, wta) to proscribe like a ban from attending tournaments under its jurisdiction but its not a punishment the type of prison obviously. this is also questionable because there would have to be a tracking system for those offenders to keep them away from tournaments, and this would perhaps violate some human rights concerning with privacy of personal related information.
This is actually already happening in a lot of countries to try and deal with football hooligans (repetitive offenders in this case). The difference is that those idiots have indeed committed violence to others, whereas tennis court-jumpers haven't as of yet (except in the terrible Seles case, of course ). Problem is that you can't judge these persons' intentions on just looking at them. I guess that only 0.000001% have truly bad intentions, but you just can't take the risk. A ten-year tournament ban looks appropriate to me.

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This is actually already happening in a lot of countries to try and deal with football hooligans (repetitive offenders in this case). The difference is that those idiots have indeed committed violence to others, whereas tennis court-jumpers haven't as of yet (except in the terrible Seles case, of course ). Problem is that you can't judge these persons' intentions on just looking at them. I guess that only 0.000001% have truly bad intentions, but you just can't take the risk. A ten-year tournament ban looks appropriate to me.
yeah, Im not exactly sure how it works, but in case of football related violence it is the state that proscribes it as a misdemeanor or even perhaps a criminal act. its just that hooliganism and violence in football (or also often basketball) is such a big deal that state had to intervene by making a law. here it is called 'the law against violence on sporting events'. now Im sure other countries have this done in better and more complete way, but still not sure 'tennis invaders' can anywhere be put under violence that usually happens at a football match. not sure, but havent heard any invader being seriously punished in that sense anywhere in the world. sadly, it is likely more people will need to be hurt for authorities to react in proper manner.

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still, it is very serious, until they get a Gunther 2.0 they won't do a thing
Yeah, plus it's not like Gunther ever went to jail for almost murdering someone.

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thankfully the man meant no harm, but this is the third time it has happened in less than two years, the only slam where they haven't been able to reach the players is Wimbledon
Roger's 2006 QF match with Ancic at Wimbledon, two guys ran on the court and tried to hit a few balls, one of them was standing right next to Roger and Roger just looked at him like WTF?

That was the same yearslam Sharapova and Dementieva were graced by a streaker. Wimby was nutty that year. Their due for another streaker soon.

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I didn't realise the court invader was a really small guy, it looked like a kid to me when I first saw him.
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