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Grand Slams Really Need To Scrap 32 Seed Format

The Grand Slams should go back to having 16 seeds imo.
It would make the early rounds much more interesting and produce more close and entertaining match ups in the early rounds if the top seeds were playing people in the 20 - 30 ranking in the first couple of rounds some of the time, who potentially might beat them.
The top seeds just get so easy cake draws with 32 seeds.
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Well, while it would be interesting to see Haas and Federer go at it in the first round, where would that leave the rest of the draw? There would be so many more possibilities for a Dodig-De Bakker or Starace-Serra first round. This would lead to fluke runs due to lucky draws. The more seeds there are, the more stability there is at the top. While total deadlock would be uninteresting, a free for all would be too dependent on luck. Plus, think of all the complaining that would go on if Murray faced Berdych in the first round, while Nadal faced Zverev. Cake draws are better than fluke runs.

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Couldn't agree less.
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Well, while it would be interesting to see Haas and Federer go at it in the first round, where would that leave the rest of the draw? There would be so many more possibilities for a Dodig-De Bakker or Starace-Serra first round. This would lead to fluke runs due to lucky draws. The more seeds there are, the more stability there is at the top. While total deadlock would be uninteresting, a free for all would be too dependent on luck. Plus, think of all the complaining that would go on if Murray faced Berdych in the first round, while Nadal faced Zverev. Cake draws are better than fluke runs.
Well said. A greater number of seeds also gives players ranked 17-32 more recognition for the efforts in getting up in the rankings. With so much ranking points and prize money avaiable at Grand Slams, I think it is good having lots of seeds and therefore a fairer draw.

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Nothing interesting in having a match such as Youzhny vs Gasquet in the 1st round.
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Personally I hate nothing more than seeing two good players meet early in a slam. Seems like such a waste. Would rather both win several matches and then play each other.
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32 seeds is just right. Otherwise players ranked high around 20 could often get screwed by getting drawn against a top 5 player in the 1st round. The notion that a player in the top 20 could be placed anywhere in the draw equal to a qualifier is ridiculous.

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No.
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Re: Grand Slams Really Need To Scrap 32 Seed Format

I agree its much better for players ranked 17-32 to have 32 seeds as they'll get easier draws overall in the first couple of rounds but why should that even matter?
Its better for the spectators and more interesting for the sport if the top seeds are sometimes dealt really tough match ups in the first couple of rounds and thats what should be important.
Before the 32 seed rule there were some great matches in the early rounds which would not be allowed to happen today.
Having more fluke runs is surely better than boring cake draws and its cool to see a low ranked player go deep once in a while.
And a more random and unpredictable draw is more fun and exciting.
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With 32 seeds it's much more difficult for new players to break through. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
Oh for the good old days pre 1968, when there were only 8 seeds!!!

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With 32 seeds it's much more difficult for new players to break through. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
Oh for the good old days pre 1968, when there were only 8 seeds!!!
The problem is then you have mediocre players making it deep only because they've played other mediocre players meanwhile you could have two good players meeting in the first round.
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With 32 seeds it's much more difficult for new players to break through. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
How, they get randomly drawn against anyone. Unless, you're counting on some getting lucky enough to have a couple of rounds of cakewalk draw, it doesn't affect them at all, it would affect those who would lose the seeding as they could also be drawn against anyone from 1st round on.
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The problem is then you have mediocre players making it deep only because they've played other mediocre players meanwhile you could have two good players meeting in the first round.
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the less seeds the more chance of skewed draws.

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I would like to see 16 seeds again as well. Especially now that there is coverage on all the courts available. I like fluke runs. Its parts of what makes the slams great.
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I would like to see 16 seeds again as well. Especially now that there is coverage on all the courts available. I like fluke runs. Its parts of what makes the slams great.
I would like just the opposite. 64 seeds. More fair draw but less entertaining matches early on.

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