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World Tennis Cup - new world order?

" An ambitious plan to transform the tennis calendar with the sport’s first World Cup is to be considered by the top male players, The Times has learnt.

In an attempt to attract a younger audience, the biennial ten-day tournament, involving 32 teams, would feature shorter matches in which players have to watch the clock between points — and, most controversial of all, compulsory mid-match substitutions.

Although the idea for a World Cup is in its formative stages, it has already been presented to leading tennis administrators and television executives, who believe that a men-only competition would attract a larger audience.

Such a move would effectively sound the death knell for the Davis Cup, which is seen as being the victim of an ill-defined format. "

Article continues at http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle6985410.ece



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Dreadful idea by middle-aged marketing morons trying to be "young". As so often these days. I know, let's ruin our product in the forlorn hope of appealing to people who don't like it.

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" An ambitious plan to transform the tennis calendar with the sport’s first World Cup is to be considered by the top male players, The Times has learnt.

In an attempt to attract a younger audience, the biennial ten-day tournament, involving 32 teams, would feature shorter matches in which players have to watch the clock between points — and, most controversial of all, compulsory mid-match substitutions.

Although the idea for a World Cup is in its formative stages, it has already been presented to leading tennis administrators and television executives, who believe that a men-only competition would attract a larger audience.

Such a move would effectively sound the death knell for the Davis Cup, which is seen as being the victim of an ill-defined format. "

Article continues at http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle6985410.ece
Wow! Sounds very exciting and less of a committment than Davis Cup.

At the end of the article:
How it would work
The proposed biennial World Cup would feature
• A ten-day, men-only event with 32 teams in eight groups of four, 16 reaching the knockout stages.
• Each tie a single match over the best of five sets, with each nation having to field at least two players per tie — ie, enforced substitutions.
• Maximum 25sec between points.
Tie-breaks the first to five points.

Um... shorting the tiebreaker by a small amount seems pretty pointless. It will be interesting to learn the substitution rules, for example how many sets someone can play before getting subbed off.

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Substitutions? In a tennis match? Whenever the reasoning behind an idea (read the link) is "young people don't have the attention span for [insert something worthwhile]", you know the idea's bound to be shit. If "young people" are so fucking thick, we shouldn't bother appealing to them at all.

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Substitutions? In a tennis match? Whenever the reasoning behind an idea (read the link) is "young people don't have the attention span for [insert something worthwhile]", you know the idea's bound to be shit. If "young people" are so fucking thick, we shouldn't bother appealing to them at all.
I guess it could be argued that it's being played as a "team sport", then team sports do generally allow substitutions. Practically though, the issue would be, what does the substitute player do by way of a warm-up?..(and then as I asked that, I figured the warm-up would take place on a nearby court.., presumably against his opposite number..



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Stupid... no, not strong enough.

Idiotic... Nope, still doesn't cut it.

Abysmal...

nah, can't find the words to describe this nonsense.

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The methods and drugs used by Armstrong in 1999 would work in tennis right now, with zero chance of being caught (not slightly surprising to anyone familiar with the topic, btw).
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Tell me this is a joke.

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10 days could change the traditional game of tennis forever.

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Tell me this is a joke.
I'm not saying the idea will gain or not gain traction, but Sophocles and ausdecline, you're both from cricketing nations, but maybe too young to remember the enormous outcry and outrage when the idea of limited overs cricket was first mooted... and now, 30 odd years later, it's like it was always part of the cricketing scene.



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Beyond pathetic. The Daviscup is the best event in tennis and it has to stay like it is.
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This puts me in mind of Kerry Packer in cricket, when traditionalists (like myself) damned to hell him and all his offspring.
Cricket nowadays owes much of his popularity to the fact that he wasn't afraid to innovate, and once started the floodgates were opened.

I detest the ideas propounded in the article, but in 20 years it could equally be regarded as a necessary revolution.

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I don't like one-day cricket either. As for 20/20....

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Mid-match substitutions?! Most ridiculous idea ever
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Re: World Tennis Cup - new world order?

It seems to have the support of the players, so if the sport administrators buckle this will happen.

Edit: Substitutions will become a farce before too long, unless it gets a much bigger rule set. I can see the best player always being the last one on, though.
Edit: Edit: Maybe make it something like this, substitution is a must (and only allowed) when having lost between 10 and 15 games and won between 15 and 20, something like that.
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