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It is likely that Djokovic will be the new number 2 after the Australian Open

I got this contribution from the user evil (on the RF site) and he's 100% correct.

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Its likely Djokovic will be #2 by the end of AO. If Nadal gets anything less than Semi Finals (7670 or less) then Djokovic is #2 since the minimum Djokovic can have is 7960 (losing 1st rd).

Should Nadal reach the SF (8030) then he needs to hope Djokovic doesnt reach R32 (8040) to hold on to #2.

Should Nadal reach the Final (8510) then he needs to hope Djokovic doesnt reach the SF (8670) to hold on to #2

The only way Nadal can guarantee himself #2 by the end of AO is if he wins it. Any other result then its out of his hands.

In fact all Djokovic has to do is to ensure he gets the same result as Nadal in AO and he is the new #2

Regarding Djokovic #1 potential should he win he'd be on 9950 points. Roger would need to reach the Semi Finals to secure #1 from djokovic.
However, it should be noted that Novak doesn't like the heat of Oz and that should play against his number 2 aspirations.

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Re: It is likely that Djokovic will be the new number 2 after the Australian Open

Well, we all know what happened every time Djokovic has a chance to become #2, no?
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That's not technically true.

If Murray beats Djokovic in QF and goes onto win the tournament Murray will delay Djokovic becoming no. 2 until his Rotterdamn points come off. The only way he'd be prevented from becoming no. 2 would be if Murray would take a wildcard to Rotterdam and go onto reach the final which is unlikely. If Nadal was close enough to replace Murray as no. 2 after his Rotterdamn points had come off he'd be no. 2 after the Slam.

If Djokovic goes out in R32 then Murray would still be #2 after his Rotterdamn points come off.

If Del Potro wins the tournament and Djokovic goes out in R16 then Del Potro will be no. 2 immediately after. After his San Jose points come off he'd be tied with Djokovic on ranking points but would be ranked ahead based on Grand Slam/MS points earned. Del Potro would then have to reach the SF in Marselle, winning two matches thanks to the bye, to replenish his Memphis points.

Djokovic can't gain any points until IW/Miami as he's maxed out his '500' allocation and isn't playing any '250' tournaments.
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hopefully nole can seize this opportunity to become no.2 when it presents itself.

he has failed too many times already, i remember last year at sydney, all he had to do is beat jarkko nieminen of all players in the SF and the #2 ranking would have been his for at least 2 weeks, but he lost in straights...OMG!!!

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Hopefully Novak can get to number for a bit and win a major.

I want Federer, Djoker and Soderling to win the majors this year.

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In fact all Djokovic has to do is to ensure he gets the same result as Nadal in AO and he is the new #2
Maybe they both can win AO.
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So many IF. I would like to see him as No.2 after AO but I doubt it. As paseo said...I'm afraid it's true.

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he should be number 1 if he wins it and Federerer is defeated by Davydenko , Soderling or Murray in the QF which is very likely, but this article tries very hard not to offend Federerer with the reality of things
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I am sure he will get the #2 ranking soon. After all, the US is the one missing from the retirement slam and I expectt him to have secured the #2 ranking before he has to retire there.
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Davydenko could get to number 2 if he wins the AO + has good results in Miami and Indian wells as he missed all 3 of those events last year. Along with a good clay season (Semi final+ at roland garros) he could even make it to number 1
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he should be number 1 if he wins it and Federer is defeated by Davydenko , Soderling or Murray in the QF which is very likely, but this article tries very hard not to offend Federer with the reality of things
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AO title is guaranteed 100% for Rafa,no way he is going to loose there.... noone and i mean NOONE is gonna beat him there.. as true as the end of the days,there is nothing that can stop it.So this thread is useless.To sum it up,Rafa will win AO.So i conclude by saying that if the australian open is to take place as it has been taking place through years and as is being projected Rafa will win it.Do i make myself clear?

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Davydenko could get to number 2 if he wins the AO + has good results in Miami and Indian wells as he missed all 3 of those events last year.
Davy is useless at Indian Wells - he's only made the 3rd round once. The ball bounces too high for him, both in groundstrokes and particularly on serve.

Can't see him doing anything at the Aus either, unless he supermans his way through the whole thing and doesn't have to play any long matches. When he made US Open semis in 2007, it was all straight sets (helped by a really easy draw). Roland Garros, he only dropped 1 set to Fat Dave. Add in the nasty conditions in Australia, and you can't like his chances.
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#2, #3 doesn't matter. Only #1 matters.

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AO title is guaranteed 100% for Rafa,no way he is going to loose there.... noone and i mean NOONE is gonna beat him there.. as true as the end of the days,there is nothing that can stop it.So this thread is useless.To sum it up,Rafa will win AO.So i conclude by saying that if the australian open is to take place as it has been taking place through years and as is being projected Rafa will win it.Do i make myself clear?
Would you please shut up and take your meds!

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