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Group A: Federer, Murray, del Potro, Verdasco. 65 32.99%
Group B: Nadal, Djokovic, Davydenko, Soderling. 89 45.18%
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Which Group is Harder?

Explain why.

I think Nadal's group is slightly harder, given the form of the players. Each pair (1 and 2, 3 and 4 etc) gets split between the two groups and I think that Nadal's group got three out of the four more dangerous players. That said, I think they are very even.

I would say that Federer is a tougher player in Masters' Cup than Nadal.
Djokovic tougher than Murray (form).
Davydenko tougher than del Potro (form).
Soderling tougher than Verdasco (Verdasco's poor record against top players).

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harder for whom?
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A for sure

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Explain why.

I think Nadal's group is slightly harder, given the form of the players.
yes apparently because of our judgment on their form (not if you don't consider that : Fed's group has 3 of the top-5 in "average conditions"), but we can be surprised afterwards about that.

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pretty even for me
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Re: Which Group is Harder?

Federer wouldn't mind Nadal's draw at all (Davydenko and Soderling won't be beating him). Nadal would still find it tough if Murray and Del Potro play to their potential. It depends if you talk from Nadal's point of view or in general.
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Federer wouldn't mind Nadal's draw at all (Davydenko and Soderling won't be beating him). Nadal would still find it tough if Murray and Del Potro play to their potential. It depends if you talk from Nadal's point of view or in general.
very true : actually from Fed's point of view, players in group B are better match-ups for him than in his group (even Verdasco can give him problems with his left-handed forehand : we have seen it in the beginning of the year)

We mostly speak from Nadal's point of view.

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Re: Which Group is Harder?

Federer on paper has the hardest group with Murray (a guy who's got his number 6-3), Del Potro (Slam winner and beat Federer in their most important meeting) and Verdasco (AO semi finalist and should have won the second set in IW).

But in reality and going by who's hot currently, then Nadal. He's got Soderling (the guy who beat him at the FO for the first time), Djokovic (thrashes him at nearly every opportunity on HC) and Davydenko (clinically beat him when they met in HC finals).

The thing is, Federer wouldn't mind Nadal's draw with his pigeons Davy and Sod in it who he has a whopping 24-0 record against (or something like that). Even Djokovic is his pigeon, but I'm not sure that means much these days.

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Re: Which Group is Harder?

Group B is harder because it has in-form player Djokovic.
Group A has slumping Fed, injured Del Pony and weakest link Verdasco so it's the weaker group.
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yes apparently because of our judgment on their form (not if you don't consider that : Fed's group has 3 of the top-5 in "average conditions"), but we can be surprised afterwards about that.

Anything can happen
Form aside, group A is definitely harder. It just quite possible del Potro could do a Djokovic in '07 (loose all three after a breakthrough year).

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Federer wouldn't mind Nadal's draw at all (Davydenko and Soderling won't be beating him). Nadal would still find it tough if Murray and Del Potro play to their potential. It depends if you talk from Nadal's point of view or in general.
I mean in general.

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Re: Which Group is Harder?

I think what it means it's that it's quite opened groups, hard for Fed and Nadal (and even for Djokovic it's not such a good draw)

Even more opened if you consider that some may be injured and trouble the group.

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Re: Which Group is Harder?

Havind said that, I don't have a clue what is going to happen? Can Djokovic keep up his high level? Will Nadal have any answer for Djokovic, Soderling and Davydenko? Will Murray continue beating Federer in the best of three set format? Will Federer play up to his potential? Will an inform Del Potro show up?

All this will make it a very interesting and exciting week of tennis.
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Re: Which Group is Harder?

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