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Paris-Bercy could switch to a 32 draw next year

They are asking the ATP board next week to ask for a 32 draw, with a 250 tournament taking place along side that week at an unknown location being used as a bribe to get what they want.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...fset=12&page=2

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Jean-Francois Caujolle, tournament director of the BNP Paribas Masters, singled out Andy Murray for special praise at his end-of-event review and disclosed that next year there could be a dramatic change to the format in Paris. There is a powerful case, Caujolle believes, for the tournament to become a 32 rather than 48 man draw - "for it is quite normal that the draws become progressively smaller in order to arrive towards the Masters where there are only eight players."

He said Murray had been a victim of the current numbers and the consequent pressure it places on scheduling with only one court at the Palais Omnisport of a standard required for an event of this prestige. "[Murray] ended one match on Wednesday at 1.45am and there had been a real problem with the scheduling that day because we had six matches to play on he Centre Court," Caujolle said. The problem had been exacerbated by Marat Safin's three set loss to Juan Martin Del Potro, after which there was an extended retirement celebration for the Russian that put another spanner in the works.

"The next day Murray had to play on Court No 1 (against Radek Stepanek) and sincerely I believe he would not have lost that match if it had been on the Centre. He was a victim of those problems we have with a tournament with 48 players. He was extremely decent and said nothing about it. He just said the other player was better than him."

Caujolle revealed that his plans for a reduction in draw size would be put to the ATP Board next week. He also declared that an ATP 250 tournament would be scheduled in the same week as Paris next year - "so we are not only guaranteeing the existing jobs of the players but creating new ones," he said. "I trust it will be possible."
Same jist here..

http://www.elconfidencial.com/ultima...-20091115.html

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París, 15 nov (EFE).- Los organizadores del Másters 1.000 de Bercy pedirán a la ATP pasar de 48 a 32 jugadores el año próximo, dada su presencia en el final de temporada, afirmó hoy el director del torneo, Jean-François Caujolle.

"Creemos que es lo lógico en el final de temporada. Ir reduciendo el número de tenistas a medida que pasa el tiempo hasta llegar a los ocho del torneo de Maestros. Ya se hace así en el golf", señaló.

Con esta modificación, el torneo pretende mejorar la calidad de los partidos en un momento en el que los mejores tenistas del circuito llegan fatigados al final de temporada.

Además, con un cuadro final más liviano se evitarían algunos de los problemas organizativos derivados de ser un torneo en pista cubierta.

"Algunos de los mejores del mundo han tenido que jugar en la pista secundaria, que aunque es muy buena no es igual que la central", aseguró Caujolle.

Puso el ejemplo del británico Andy Murray, cuarto del mundo, que logró su clasificación para octavos de final en un partido que acabó casi a las 2 de la madrugada y, al día siguiente, tuvo que jugar en la pista secundaria.

"Creo que si hubiera jugado ese partido en la central no habría perdido", dijo el director del torneo.

Para apoyar su petición, los organizadores de Bercy propondrán a la ATP que en las mismas fechas de su torneo se celebre un Másters 250 al que puedan acudir aquellos que queden fuera del de París.

"De esta forma preservamos el trabajo de los tenistas y la calidad del espectáculo", dijo.

Caujolle se quejó que con la actual disposición del torneo, los tres primeros días de competición están llenos de partidos con tenistas de la zona media baja del ránking. EFE lmpg/ea
Following the glory hunters instead of what's good for the sport in the long term as usual.

Typically a 32 draw has 3 WC's, 4 qualify spots and two two SE slots as well and as any of the 8 SF's from Valencia or Basel won't be able to participate in qualifying it's likely that only the top 23 won't have to qualify if they want to participate.
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Re: Paris-Bercy could switch to a 32 draw next year

The top players would still play 5 matches.
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Re: Paris-Bercy could switch to a 32 draw next year

It's a good idea to shorten he draw, but perhaps they should also elongate the courts a bit lmao
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They should speed the court back up.

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Why not make it 28 and play only the superTB to win every match. Talk about masters losing prestige and why.
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sounds good to me...don't need the byes then
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I don't like this idea. If bercy can't accommodate a 1000 tournament, then they should move it somewhere else. The court 1 in bercy is a joke for an ATP 1000. There are ATP 500 tournaments that have a much better court 1. The ATP should deny their proposal and tell them to make a better court 1, if they can't, then they should downgrade bercy to a 500 tournament or at least lose their mandatory status.
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Re: Paris-Bercy could switch to a 32 draw next year

If they can't stage this event with the full required drawsize to the level that an event of this prestige requires, then it should be moved to another venue, another location entirely if necessary.
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Very sad if true, this used to be a really good, high quality indoor tournament and now it's a slow shitty MM with what looks like becoming a 32 draw.

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I don't like this idea. If bercy can't accommodate a 1000 tournament, then they should move it somewhere else.
Exactly, but not to China.

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Caujolle is a fucking A-hole for taking credits away from Stepanek. True or not, that's something you just can not say as a tournament director.

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The top players would still play 5 matches.
That's not the point. If they have a 32 players draw, top players will play on Monday, too. They don't have to wait for their possible opponents to play their 1st round match.

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Why not make it 28 and play only the superTB to win every match. Talk about masters losing prestige and why.
Paris has been a second class masters for a decade now. Look at the list of winners in that time - aside from Safin, none of them were top tier.
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I don't like this idea. If bercy can't accommodate a 1000 tournament, then they should move it somewhere else. The court 1 in bercy is a joke for an ATP 1000. There are ATP 500 tournaments that have a much better court 1. The ATP should deny their proposal and tell them to make a better court 1, if they can't, then they should downgrade bercy to a 500 tournament or at least lose their mandatory status.
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Give Monte Carlo back their full Masters Status, which they should never have lost in my view, and downgrade Paris.

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