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Why does Fed not bother returning serve?

All this year Fed has just stood on baseline netting returns, waiting for sets to reach tiebreaks.

His inability/unwillingness to return serve nearly cost him Wimbledon title, and will prevent from winning WTF any slams next year unless he sorts it.

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Re: Why does Fed not bother returning serve?

his return of serve hasn't been too great
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Re: Why does Fed not bother returning serve?

Waiting to get to a tiebreak is completely wrong.In most cases Federer tries to get a break and then sits on it holding serve throughout the set.
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Re: Why does Fed not bother returning serve?

He's too arogant to bother.

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Re: Why does Fed not bother returning serve?

Federer has never been a really great ROS.
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Re: Why does Fed not bother returning serve?

His return of serve is definitely not what it used to be, which is one of the key reasons why he barely ever dishes out bagels anymore. He used to bagel opponents left and right, but not so anymore.

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Re: Why does Fed not bother returning serve?

In 9/10 matches he only goes for, and gets, one break. Why give up all the extra energy? Look at Nadal. Trying to get every game... His matches last 10x as long and he is killing his body.

Federer's return is good. But if he doesn't really care to break he gets sloppy.

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Re: Why does Fed not bother returning serve?

Federer has alot of qualities....

When he does return a serve, it does land deep. So his return of serve is very good.

Otherwise, there really is no reason he should change his returning position too much like Nadal and Murray do - that's the reason that they have so many problems with return "depth".
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Re: Why does Fed not bother returning serve?

Federer is obsessed with saving his efforts. He believes that's key to a long successful injury-free tennis life
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His return of serve is definitely not what it used to be, which is one of the key reasons why he barely ever dishes out bagels anymore. He used to bagel opponents left and right, but not so anymore.
This.

at some of the posts. No, Federer does not have a great ROS compared to the other top players (look at the stats). Yes, Federer's return used to be great. Not in aggressiveness, but he was unequaled at getting returns in play. This is one facet of his game that has dropped a lot in the past 2 years and that I don't think he's ever going to get it back.
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at some of the posts. No, Federer does not have a great ROS compared to the other top players (look at the stats). Yes, Federer's return used to be great. Not in aggressiveness, but he was unequaled at getting returns in play. This is one facet of his game that has dropped a lot in the past 2 years and that I don't think he's ever going to get it back.
This pretty much sums it up.

Fed's FH return is still quite good. His BH return has always been pretty defensive. Previously, his speed (and thus defense) and ability to take control with just one FH were enough to put immediate pressure on servers. If he got it in and pushed it deep, chances were he'd win the point.

He still plays it defensively, but now he lacks the speed and FH to consistently take immediate control. Plus he misses the block-backs a lot more than he used to, probably a slowing reaction-time thing or an attempt to keep returns low and thus from floating and then getting crushed past his deteriorating speed.

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Re: Why does Fed not bother returning serve?

He doesn't really need to. He can dish out the Sampras special 6-4 sets almost at will.
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Federer is obsessed with saving his efforts. He believes that's key to a long successful injury-free tennis life
This.

It's a page out of Sampras's book. Bored me then. Bores me now
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His inability/unwillingness to return serve will prevent him from winning WTF any slams next year unless he sorts it.
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He doesn't really need to. He can dish out the Sampras special 6-4 sets almost at will.
Yes. For the past year or so I think it's been Roger's priority to do just enough to win matches comfortably and not throw himself 100% into anything unless he's facing a player he considers a real threat (count them on one hand). Watching Roger win matches on cruise control is even more dull than when he truly dominated an opponent. Even the tiebreaks are boring because it all comes down to nerves and more often than not the other guy is going to fold like a lawnchair on the big points and Roger knows this. So it never feels like he's in danger even when he's down a break or set.

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