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Players retiring as a form of protest?

Everyone is retiring from this late-season event in Shanghai....could it be that this is their form of protest for a long, unforgiving season?

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Re: Players retiring as a form of protest?

do not know. Murray and Fed are not even there!

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Re: Players retiring as a form of protest?

i guess u badly need the prize for the worst post ever ...

Q. Do you think you would have been able to play as well as you played today, or you think you would have pulled out from the game if it wasn't the Masters Cup final?

ROGER FEDERER: No, Roger Federer doesn't pull out. Otherwise he doesn't walk on court (smiling).


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Re: Players retiring as a form of protest?

Tennis has become a much more physical sport than it was in the 80's and 90's. They should just cancel the season after the USO. Paris masters is notable for its many withdrawals and retirements by top players - clearly playing so many matches early on in the year takes it toll at the end.

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Re: Players retiring as a form of protest?

I don't know what's behind but this is a huge waste of money and of time for many people.
I think the players are just tired, they want to go home and the empty seats don't help. They might say to themselves "what the hell am I doing here ?".
Wrong timing, wrong event promotion, ATP is wrong.

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Re: Players retiring as a form of protest?

anyway, my bet is boredo will not finish his match against nadull a.k.a. the pig

Q. Do you think you would have been able to play as well as you played today, or you think you would have pulled out from the game if it wasn't the Masters Cup final?

ROGER FEDERER: No, Roger Federer doesn't pull out. Otherwise he doesn't walk on court (smiling).


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Re: Players retiring as a form of protest?

Season is way too long. Nothing new.

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The methods and drugs used by Armstrong in 1999 would work in tennis right now, with zero chance of being caught (not slightly surprising to anyone familiar with the topic, btw).
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Re: Players retiring as a form of protest?

this is getting ridiculous

Federer - withdrew (fatigue)
Murray - withdrew (wrist injury)

Zverev - retired in R1 (fell on floor, hurt his wrist)
Acasuso - retired in R1

Del Potro - retired in R2 (wrist injury)
Roddick - retired in R2 (knee injury)
Haas - retired in R2 (shoulder injury)

Wawrinka - retired in R3 (hip problem)
Monfils - retired in R3 (?)

Only 12 players left, who's next?
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Re: Players retiring as a form of protest?

Well, there are players that benefit from this. They need the money and/or the ranking points. So, it's not all that bad..
Nadal,Djokovic, Soderling, Davydenko are top players who also benefiting from this.
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They just want to rest up for the Tour Finals.
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Players retire because they want people to know that they are losing due to injury. It's the most obvious means of indicating to the public that you are not at your best. There are obviously legitimate retirements. However, most retirements are merely a means of getting in an excuse in early.

I respect players who see a match through to the end unless they absolutely have to retire. I'm not exactly a huge fan of Federer, but I respect the fact that he's not one to call the trainer easily, nor is he one to retire lightly. The same goes for Murray. You won't see either player calling the trainer or retiring as anything other than a last resort.

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I don't know what's behind but this is a huge waste of money and of time for many people.
I think the players are just tired, they want to go home and the empty seats don't help. They might say to themselves "what the hell am I doing here ?".
Wrong timing, wrong event promotion, ATP is wrong.
There are at least 2 million reasons why they are there. Someone offers you 500k or a million (unless you're Roger or Rafa), you'd be pretty stupid not to take it. So if anyone outside Top 5 retires it's nothing to do with them not wanting to play in China...they're simply injured.

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Players retire because they want people to know that they are losing due to injury. It's the most obvious means of indicating to the public that you are not at your best. There are obviously legitimate retirements. However, most retirements are merely a means of getting in an excuse in early.

I respect players who see a match through to the end unless they absolutely have to retire. I'm not exactly a huge fan of Federer, but I respect the fact that he's not one to call the trainer easily, nor is he one to retire lightly. The same goes for Murray. You won't see either player calling the trainer or retiring as anything other than a last resort.
Unless you're Andy Murray, right?

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Unless you're Andy Murray, right?
Care to point out a few of his retirements for me?

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Care to point out a few of his retirements for me?
I wasn't refering to his retirement record, I was refering the fact that most of his gs/important losses are followed by some injury claim/excuse (most notably AO and USO).

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