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What's the difference between Australian Open & US Open?

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Talking about the surface rebound ace or whatever , is there a difference at all , like when people say Nadal sucks at the US Open , is there a reason he should suck there and not at the Australian OPen? Im not even a Nadal fan just wondering.
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Re: EWhatst he difference between Australian Open & US Open?

You can edit the title.

US Open courts are considerably faster and Nadal has been known to struggle more when the ball truly flies in the air and he has to take the ball early. Although he is much more agressive these days, hence the improved results in NY.

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The ball bounces higher on plexicushion where the Australian Open is played. It also has a livelier bounce which means it takes spin better. I'd imagine the higher bounce combined with the overall slower pace means that he can afford to play further behind the baseline without the ball getting away from him, and he can also retrieve more balls because of the slower pace.
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The ball bounces higher on plexicushion where the Australian Open is played. It also has a livelier bounce which means it takes spin better. I'd imagine the higher bounce combined with the overall slower pace means that he can afford to play further behind the baseline without the ball getting away from him, and he can also retrieve more balls because of the slower pace.
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Re: EWhatst he difference between Australian Open & US Open?

Ones played on glorified clay and one isnt.
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Re: EWhatst he difference between Australian Open & US Open?

Well, one is played in Australia, and one in the US; in January and September respectively.
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The ball bounces higher on plexicushion where the Australian Open is played. It also has a livelier bounce which means it takes spin better. I'd imagine the higher bounce combined with the overall slower pace means that he can afford to play further behind the baseline without the ball getting away from him, and he can also retrieve more balls because of the slower pace.
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Re: EWhatst he difference between Australian Open & US Open?

Melbourne is a more beautiful place with better weather as well
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While I agree with the above post regarding the surfaces, I think the main reason Rafa hasnt succeeded at the US Open is that he usually hasnt been in peak form going into that tournament.
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Re: What's the difference between Australian Open & US Open?

Also from what I understand the US Open uses very lightweight, lively balls unlike some other places with fast courts like Wimbledon. In London they use very heavy tennis balls. So you have a faster surface than what's used in Melbourne plus lively balls.

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Also from what I understand the US Open uses very lightweight, lively balls unlike some other places with fast courts like Wimbledon. In London they use very heavy tennis balls. So you have a faster surface than what's used in Melbourne plus lively balls.
Doesn't both the US Open and the Australian Open use Wilson balls? (Though they used to use Slazenger at the Australian Open)

I can't understand why they seem to have different effects though, as if the court surface brings out different qualities out of them? Like people have been complaining about Wilson balls fluffing up in Melbourne, but not in New York.
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Re: What's the difference between Australian Open & US Open?

Balls are out of the question.

AO - Plexicushion Prestige, customised to a medium pace, medium bounce.
USO - Pro DecoTurf, fast pace, low bounce.

Just as a comparison, Indian Wells or Miami (Plexipave IW and Laykold Cushion Plus respectively) are slow paced, high bouncing surfaces.

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Nadal's improved results at the Open are down to weak opposition. He's never beaten a top class player there.

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Nadal's improved results at the Open are down to weak opposition. He's never beaten a top class player there.
Well Nadal won in Beijing. The tournament before the US Open that used the same surface and balls. But he's never been in top form at the US Open. Maybe this year he will bring his best. We'll see.
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The ball bounces higher on plexicushion where the Australian Open is played. It also has a livelier bounce which means it takes spin better.
Krystlel : somebody else -don't know how much to trust him however- told me that the Plexicushion (Australia) takes little the effects, including spin -and slice of course-,

than the Decoturf (US Open).

Higher bounce on Plexicushion from Australia OK, but are you sure it also takes better spin than the Decoturf of the US Open ?

And what about slice ?

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