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Will losing be considered normal for Federer?

Everytime he loses, even in the lower tournaments, there is so much commotion as if isn't allowed to lose. Will this ever change? Discuss!

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Re: Will losing be considered normal for Federer?

It pretty much is...with the way he's playing, he certainly doesn't have that aura of invincibility anymore. Now losing after being up 5-1 in the 3rd will never be considered normal for Federer,
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Re: Will losing be considered normal for Federer?

Of course. It will change because Now we got Nadal, Murray, Del and Djok whom are catching Fed day to day.

And ROger looks off his best and he maynot his best tennis back because Now he is 28 years old and will only get older

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Re: Will losing be considered normal for Federer?

Nope.
Federer isn´t supposed to lose.
before that happens he will retire.

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Nope.
Federer isn´t supposed to lose.
before that happens he will retire.
maybe. I agree with you

cause He got everything that he wants to. So why not

And this maybe the best time for him to retire. because 15Gs and 15 masters and Golden GS and two pretty girls (happy father)

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Re: Will losing be considered normal for Federer?

According to the vast majority of MTF, no , fed isnt allowed to lose; and if he does so, even once, he is considered a mug and crap.
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Re: Will losing be considered normal for Federer?

he's getting older, losing is a very natural process, no one can be on top forever

of course you cannot expect the MTFers to think about that, he's just done and screwed every single time he loses

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Re: Will losing be considered normal for Federer?

It's only normal for Fed to lose against Nadal, Murray & Djokovic. Anyone else and it's considered a MAJOR upset.
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Re: Will losing be considered normal for Federer?

any loss from now on should be considered normal, he's being judged by the standards he set on his prime and you simply cannot expect the guy to lose only 4-5 matches a year like he used to do and there are upcoming players like Murray who can upset him a lot lately

I don't read anything special on the losses, I just cherish the small time left to watch him play until he decides to retire

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Re: Will losing be considered normal for Federer?

in 2008 Fed played 19 tournaments and won 4 (Estoril, Halle, US Open and Basel) ==> 21% success rate.

This year he's played 10 tournaments and has won 3 (Madrid MS, RG and Wimbledon) ==> 33.3% success rate.

So, since the beggining of the 2008 season Federer has won 7 out of 29 tournaments in which he has played which makes a success rate of 24.1%.


By contrast, Federer won 11 out of 18 in 2005, 10 out of 15 in 2006 and 12 out of 17 in 2007 making a total success rate of 66%

obvious conclusion: Federer is not the same player he was before and you can note that not only in his game but also in his decline in the rankings and in the number of tournaments that he wins.

While in his prime he was winning about 2 thirds of the tournaments he played, now he merely wins about one fourth. Needless to say, that figure is very respectable (as most players would wish to win one fourth of the tournaments they play) but represents a big fall for him nevertheless.
Thus, if the past and the present year have proven us something is that Federer now loses much more often to many types of players. However, his prime years have kept his aura of invincibility through the years but at this point is clear that this aura is simply a remanent that comes from an amazing past of glory.
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Re: Will losing be considered normal for Federer?

Losing IS considered normal for Federer at Masters events and lower. At Grand Slams, it is still not normal, because it still doesnt happen (except against very top players at semis or finals).
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Re: Will losing be considered normal for Federer?

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Losing IS considered normal for Federer at Masters events and lower. At Grand Slams, it is still not normal, because it still doesnt happen (except against very top players at semis or finals).

Well put. The guy is still a beast in the majors.
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Re: Will losing be considered normal for Federer?

Black Adam's Fedclown OCD threads still occur more than often than Fedclown's losses.

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Re: Will losing be considered normal for Federer?

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Losing IS considered normal for Federer at Masters events and lower. At Grand Slams, it is still not normal, because it still doesnt happen (except against very top players at semis or finals).
that's true but it should also be taken into account that federer was slightly lucky in RG and Wimbledon. In RG he was on the brink of defeat against Del Potro and Haas, and in Wimbledon he almost lost to Roddick, a player that he would have had no problems defeating on grass a couple of years ago. I would say that perhaps Federer wouldn't have won had he faced any of the top 4 in either RG or Wimby... especially in RG.

in any case, I don't deny that Federer gives the best of him in the GSs rather than in the MSs. It would be highly unlikely that Federer would lose to a guy like Wawinkra or Tsonga in a GS event.
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