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Will Murray pass Rafa in the rankings before/after the USO?

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Of the top 3, Fed(2360) have the least points to defend untill after the USO, while Rafa(3150) has the most. Murray(2860) have a good chance to pass Rafa after the USO, or even before. What do you think will happen?
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Of the top 3, Fed(2360) have the least points to defend untill after the USO, while Rafa(3150) has the most. Murray(2860) have a good chance to pass Rafa after the USO, or even before. What do you think will happen?
I don't think he will,but only an idiot would dismiss the possibility out of hand.

I assumed you meant immediately after the USO when answering.If you mean at anytime afterwards I'll reconsider.
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wasn't there a discussion a few months back of murray and possibly djoker passing fed in the rankings and how nadal was the certain number 1, my how times change. Anyways as to the question i can't see nadal being supplanted by murray, even though he has a lot of points to defend so does murray but i see rafa doing better this year during the US open series and earning more points than murray. I see the year end number 1 coming down to the wire this year with fed and nadal and it possibly being decided by the TMC.
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I think he will pass him eventually, be it before or after the US Open.
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wasn't there a discussion a few months back of murray and possibly djoker passing fed in the rankings and how nadal was the certain number 1, my how times change. Anyways as to the question i can't see nadal being supplanted by murray, even though he has a lot of points to defend so does murray but i see rafa doing better this year during the US open series and earning more points than murray. I see the year end number 1 coming down to the wire this year with fed and nadal and it possibly being decided by the TMC.
I think Murray passes him if he outperforms Rafa in Montreal. I may be wrong, but I think that's how it stands.

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I think Murray passes him if he outperforms Rafa in Montreal. I may be wrong, but I think that's how it stands.
I reckon that is quite likely to happen.
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I think Murray passes him if he outperforms Rafa in Montreal. I may be wrong, but I think that's how it stands.
hmm well rafa has to defend the 1000 points as champ and murray only made the semis there, but then murray has to defend cinci and rafa only made the semis there and then of course murray has to defend the runner up points from USO while nadal has to defend the semi points, the one big advantage i will say is that 790 point differential in the olympic points coming off will be huge for murray if he is going to surpass nadal.
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I think he will pass him eventually, be it before or after the US Open.
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I think Murray passes him if he outperforms Rafa in Montreal. I may be wrong, but I think that's how it stands.
According to people I trust, he needs 236 more points than Rafa to pass him at Montreal.Assuming Rafa's fit it probably amounts to much the same thing.S.F to Q/F wouldn't be enough,anything further on would.
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wasn't there a discussion a few months back of murray and possibly djoker passing fed in the rankings and how nadal was the certain number 1, my how times change. Anyways as to the question i can't see nadal being supplanted by murray, even though he has a lot of points to defend so does murray but i see rafa doing better this year during the US open series and earning more points than murray. I see the year end number 1 coming down to the wire this year with fed and nadal and it possibly being decided by the TMC.
Yeah i remember that discussion. It shows you what MTF is all about doesnt it? Anyway i dont agree with you much. How will Rafa do better in this years USO series lol. Murray wil definitely make up points during the USO series. As for the nr 1 spot year end, its already been decided.
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I think if Rafa goes out in R16 or before in Montreal, Andy needs to get to SF to pass him.

If Andy gets to the final in Montreal, Rafa needs to beat him in the final to stay ahead.

And then things are still up in the air the following week in Cincy.
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Yeah i remember that discussion. It shows you what MTF is all about doesnt it? Anyway i dont agree with you much. How will Rafa do better in this years USO series lol. Murray wil definitely make up points during the USO series. As for the nr 1 spot year end, its already been decided.
how has the year end number 1 already been decided? i mean if fed doesn't defend his title at USO he's gonna lose quite a bit of points and if say nadal wins it then all of a sudden its a very close race again and the master tournaments and the TMC could possibly decide the year end number 1.
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how has the year end number 1 already been decided? i mean if fed doesn't defend his title at USO he's gonna lose quite a bit of points and if say nadal wins it then all of a sudden its a very close race again and the master tournaments and the TMC could possibly decide the year end number 1.
Those 2 events is an impossibility. Roger will have the USO for dessert and Rafa wont pass the quarters. You heard it here first. I was right in the FO and Wimby, just check my blog, and i will be right here again. Im way too smart for this place.
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