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New GOAT list...

Pre-Open Era: Bill Tilden
Transitional: Rod Laver
Open Era: Federer

But I don't think you can say which of these 3 are "better" since we have no objective measuring stick to compare across disparate eras like this. Safe to say, I'm satisfied with those 3.
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Yes we can.

Laver won the GS twice, in the open era and in the amateur era.

Close this thread, mods.
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Uh no, it doesn't have to be closed just because GlennMugTroll says so....

Laver won his 1962 amateur slam when Rosewall had turned pro already...
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So what?

Nobody counts that Frauderer couldn't beat Nadull to win RG. Well, we do, but in the future people won't care as much.
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I can see GlennMugTroll is trying to have it both ways. Sorry, but just as Roy Emerson is discounted for playing his entire career as amateur, Laver's amateur career will be discounted and all we're left with his a halfway-to-legend status from 1968-1976.
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We should discount all slams Fed didn't beat Nadull too.
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Laver and tilden, even if they grew up with todays technology would be completly wipped by todays superior athletes such as federer. That being said the best way to look at a player is how they did against there contemporaries. If yoo count pro slams i believe rosewalt and laver come out first but the depth of competion was far less than todays.
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Yes we can.

Laver won the GS twice, in the open era and in the amateur era.

For once I have to agree with you.
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Yes we can.

Laver won the GS twice, in the open era and in the amateur era.

Close this thread, mods.
Laver played in a mug era, means nothing. Fed would have won the GS every year had he played then.
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Laver played in a mug era, means nothing. Fed would have won the GS every year had he played then.
You are the worst poster ever in any forum.

Tilden is a step behind the other two.

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Armstrong says in-competition testing will never catch anyone, only out-of-competition testing and the blood passport can.

Tennis has no blood passport system, and does basically no out of competition testing.

The methods and drugs used by Armstrong in 1999 would work in tennis right now, with zero chance of being caught (not slightly surprising to anyone familiar with the topic, btw).
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Laver and tilden, even if they grew up with todays technology would be completly wipped by todays superior athletes such as federer. That being said the best way to look at a player is how they did against there contemporaries. If yoo count pro slams i believe rosewalt and laver come out first but the depth of competion was far less than todays.
There is more overall depth today, but the top 10 was much tougher in the Rosewall-Laver, Sampras-Agassi, Connors-McEnroe eras.
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Laver played in a mug era, means nothing. Fed would have won the GS every year had he played then.
As opposed to what ? This one..

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Fascinating. Once the thread count on the GOAT issue reaches a thousand mark, it will all become clear.
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LOL Laver weak era...yeah right, this era is pretty strong, there are competent grassand clay courters everywhere ...all the Federer fans are gloryhunters and only care for the trophies I see, someday they will learn that there are things beyond all the tournaments and trophies, and because of that Fedchoker can't be put ahead of Sampras,Laver and Borg...
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