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post #1 of 50 (permalink) Old 07-16-2009, 04:57 PM Thread Starter
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Who is greater: Becker or Wilander?

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_________AU  FR  WB  US   Total   Tour Finals  Weeks at no.1  Career Titles   h2h

Becker   2-0 0-0 3-4 1-0   6        3-5            12             49           7
Wilander 3-1 3-2 0-0 1-1   7        0-1            20             33           3



Seems like Becker to me.
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post #2 of 50 (permalink) Old 07-16-2009, 05:03 PM
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Re: Who is greater: Becker or Wilander?

Wilander 3-0 in the Slams over Becker.

Wilander won Slams on 4 surfaces, something Becker never did.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Re: Who is greater: Becker or Wilander?

Wilander heavily indebted to his success on clay. Becker my pick overall

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Wilander heavily indebted to his success on clay. Becker my pick overall
Yes, of course he won less Slams, made less Slam finals, was 0-3 against Wilander in GS, spent less weeks at number 1.

Becker never won a clay title, Wilander titles on his worst surface.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Wilander 3-0 in the Slams over Becker.

Wilander won Slams on 4 surfaces, something Becker never did.
yes I know your arguments (for the slams 2 of them were in Roland-Garros with the best Wilander on his best surface against a Becker who was less than 20 : in these conditions anybody but Lendl would have been beaten)

Becker (7-3 against Wilander) also beat Wilander 3 times in the Masters Cup, twice in Davis Cup and once in a "Masters Series" final (Cincinatti).

I don't really think that the H2H is a good argument in favour of Wilander

Fortunately statistics don't say all

My opinion is Becker (even if I think Edberg had a better carreer than Becker, to please Action_Jackson , Wilander is different)

And if Roland-Garros had been as complicated as the Australian Open in that time, no doubt that Becker would have won it

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Re: Who is greater: Becker or Wilander?

There was little in it.

Becker was better on grass and indoors while Wilander was better on Clay. The was little in it on hard courts.

Becker spent more years in top flight tennis. Wilander was basically from 1982 to 1988 a top player while Becker was top flight from 1985 to 1996.

Worst Grand Slam for Wilander was quarter finals at Wimbledon and for Becker semi-final at French Open.
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Re: Who is greater: Becker or Wilander?

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Wilander 3-0 in the Slams over Becker.

Wilander won Slams on 4 surfaces, something Becker never did.
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Armstrong says in-competition testing will never catch anyone, only out-of-competition testing and the blood passport can.

Tennis has no blood passport system, and does basically no out of competition testing.

The methods and drugs used by Armstrong in 1999 would work in tennis right now, with zero chance of being caught (not slightly surprising to anyone familiar with the topic, btw).
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Re: Who is greater: Becker or Wilander?

Wilander...more GS, won on all surfaces, and he was just so unplayable at his best. Definitely one of the most underrated players in history
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Re: Who is greater: Becker or Wilander?

I picked Boris, but they're pretty similar IMO.

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Re: Who is greater: Becker or Wilander?

I prefer Boris, but Wilander was no mug, so heart says Boris, head says Wilander

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Re: Who is greater: Becker or Wilander?

Interesting match up. Wilander was 3-7 vs Becker, but all three wins were in slams. I picked Wilander simply due to versatility.
I always felt like Mats just carried this burden of playing in the shadow of Borg.

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Re: Who is greater: Becker or Wilander?

I'd tie them.
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I'd tie them.
That's a rather unsportsmanlike tactic.

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Re: Who is greater: Becker or Wilander?

Wilander.

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Re: Who is greater: Becker or Wilander?

Mats, was the better all court player.
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