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Where are the stars?

Maybe it's time to rethink the current formula for the Davis Cup, or at least review the calendar. The competition still has an unparalleled thrill, but where are the stars? We should not forget or pretend it did not happen, but the collapse started for one reason: the removal of the main players, unable to concentrate in two tournaments at the same time( doubles and singles) and the need for more time between the schedules.

Today the players, who are in leadership positions, lost interest in the Davis Cup. Pete Sampras fight to be number 1 and said that The Davis Cup spent until 4 weeks of his schedule and this is the same time spent in 2 Grand Slams.

Today, Roger Federer uses another tactic. Only enter into action to prevent the demotion of Switzerland, which leaves an obvious fact: there is no plans to give four weeks of his year to represent his country in Davis.

The semifinals this year reflect this. Ironically, the first round of The Davis became the most important. If a country wins and flees the recap, the stars are also fleeing from the competition. How to require of a main tennis player, which dispute the final of a Grand Slam, to follow days in totally different conditions,exposing themselves to injuries and disappointments.


If Davis doesn't go through changes, the current system will persist. The large, traditional teams are out of the finals, with the exception of the current champion Spain.

Spain is assured in the semifinals and has the advantage of playing at home in front of Israel, which eliminated Russia without Davydenko. The United States, without the vice-champion of Wimbledon, Andy Roddick, fell forward from Croatia, who will face the Czech Republic.

In the great moments, The Davis Cupis is incomparable. Ranking leaders which reached the final and won the title didn't feel any regret and never forget the excitement.

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Re: Where are the stars?

one of two things should be done. compress the tournament to one month or have it every other year to give it more meaning.
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The stars are in the sky.

Nothing to discuss. They already give ranking points for it, when they shouldn't.

Because some primadonnas don't want to play it, the whole structure doesn't have to be changed. Considering DC ties is the way for federations that don't have a Slam to generate revenue.

But of course it's always only about the top few, can't make them play.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Re: Where are the stars?

DC is always scheduled (it seems) right after GS - the top players either are injured, tired, or just don't want to play.
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DC is always scheduled (it seems) right after GS - the top players either are injured, tired, or just don't want to play.
The players actually worked with the ITF to make the schedule more friendly to their needs and the 1st round isn't being played straight after the AO.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Re: Where are the stars?

I think you're exaggerating it a bit. Missing a tie due to injuries and the similar has always been a part of it. Other than Fed playing mainly play-offs, who really misses many ties? Perhaps they could schedule it better by not having ties immediately after a slam, but that's about it. Can't make anyone play if they don't feel like it.

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one of two things should be done. compress the tournament to one month or have it every other year to give it more meaning.
A resounding NO from me on both accounts for so many reasons that I can't be bothered to write them all.
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A resounding NO from me on both accounts for so many reasons that I can't be bothered to write them all.
A resounding no even if the premise to reformat Davis Cup is to entice the top players to participate?
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A resounding no even if the premise to reformat Davis Cup is to entice the top players to participate?
Exactly.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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A resounding no even if the premise to reformat Davis Cup is to entice the top players to participate?
For starters, how is 4 weeks back to back DC ties going to entice anyone to participate?
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Exactly.
So the premise is ill conceived.
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For starters, how is 4 weeks back to back DC ties going to entice anyone to participate?
Then there are the Federations, who are going to less money than they do now. What surface is it going to be.

It's like Hewitt, he would never have played in South America if it wasn't for DC. Like going to Australia, it's going to be on a fast surface and so on.

4 weeks in one place, no way.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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For starters, how is 4 weeks back to back DC ties going to entice anyone to participate?
It's certainly not working the way it's set up now with regards to drawing the top players.
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You can't force players play to DC, if they need to be begged with bullshit incentives, that isn't going to help.

It's not just about the stars. Sampras didn't care about DC before he won it 95 and didn't care afterwards. Connors and Chang never cared for it.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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It's certainly not working the way it's set up now with regards to drawing the top players.
Again, who aside from Federer is missing more than an odd tie?
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Again, who aside from Federer is missing more than an odd tie?
The World Cup without Brazil due to indifference would lessen the prestige of winning it by a tad, wouldn't you say?
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