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Wimbledon Officials Hypocritical?

The guys at Wimbledon talk about tradition and what you have done at Wimbledon but they still manage to put Federer at No. 2 even though he has won 5 of the last 6 Wimbledons and he is the defending FO and US Open champ. Nadal is great and him being No. 2 doesn't really change his fortunes one bit, but Wimbledon Officials have developed this knack for disrespecting legends. Agassi lost to Nadal and left Wimbledon without any major effort by these guys to celebrate his career (at the time). Sampras had to play in outer courts even though he had 7 Wimbledons! I bet Murray would've been bumped to No. 1 if he had done anything major anywhere.

Am I reading too much into this? Will Nadal, Federer, and others end up in outer courts when they are not in top 10?

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When will people realise that it is not done on a whim? They take the top 32 seeds as per this week's ranking and apply a set formula using points achieved on grass in the last couple of years. There is more weight to the last year, so Nadal stays ahead of Federer.

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Am I reading too much into this? Will Nadal, Federer, and others end up in outer courts when they are not in top 10?
Possibly, and probably. Federer and Nadal will still have their fanbases, but the 'new' top 10 in future will be the ones that people will pay to see and Wimbledon officials will be keen to get them onto the show-courts. Especially the two-week a year Wimbledon fans.

Nadal is the World No.1 & defending champion. He should be no.1 seed. Agassi was actually pretty lucky his last match was against Nadal. Only a match up with Federer, top 4 seed, or a high ranking Brit would have prevented him being put on an outside court.
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Rafa is world number 1 and was undefeated on grass last year. He should be number 1 seed based on recent form.

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About the Rafa thing, I think your argument is strong that he should be seeded No. 1 but Wimbledon officials need to be more clear about their "formula" It's not like Roger lost in the 2nd round last year. OK. Rafa is No. 1 and Defending champ. Roger has won 5 out of last 6, French and US Open Champ. You can make the case for both but I remember Nadal being given the No. 2 seed the first year he reached the final. How do you explain that? Not a bad decision when you lack it but hindsight is 20/20.

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About the Rafa thing, I think your argument is strong that he should be seeded No. 1 but Wimbledon officials need to be more clear about their "formula" It's not like Roger lost in the 2nd round last year. OK. Rafa is No. 1 and Defending champ. Roger has won 5 out of last 6, French and US Open Champ. You can make the case for both but I remember Nadal being given the No. 2 seed the first year he reached the final. How do you explain that? Not a bad decision when you lack it but hindsight is 20/20.
Since the formula starts with ranking points if you're far enough ahead of the next guy in the rankings weighting grass resutls doesn't much matter. That's how Nadal was seeded #2 in 2006. I think what's in place now is fine. Although I'm sure Williams Sisters fans would disagree as Dinara Safina was seeded #1, even though Venus won the tournament in 2007 and 2008 and Safina hasn't had great results on grass.

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Since the formula starts with ranking points if you're far enough ahead of the next guy in the rankings weighting grass resutls doesn't much matter. That's how Nadal was seeded #2 in 2006. I think what's in place now is fine. Although I'm sure Williams Sisters fans would disagree as Dinara Safina was seeded #1, even though Venus won the tournament in 2007 and 2008 and Safina hasn't had great results on grass.
OK. That makes sense then. I am still sure being British will have some advantages. But not this year. We will see.

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at first I thought this was a a joke-thread, alas it isn't
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Rafa is world number 1 and was undefeated on grass last year. He should be number 1 seed based on recent form.
Obviously. And just as much, Roger should be #2. Don't see what the fuss is about, here.

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Dear god, what is the matter with you people? They've been using the same formula to create seeds for years. If you want to debate whether or not the forumla they use works, fine. But get a clue before you start with the bias/conspiracy theory crap.

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IMO Haas should be number 1 seed.

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IMO Haas should be number 1 seed.
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As long as they're 1 and 2, wtf difference does it make.

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