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Highest ace-point ratio ever?

In today's Karlovic v Roddick match, there were a total of 50 aces served from 146 points played.

That gives a ratio of: 50/146 = 0.3425, meaning that on average throughout the match, more than 1 in every 3 points consisted of an ace being served.

Can anyone think of a higher ratio they've ever seen? Or is this a new record?

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Re: Highest ace-point ratio ever?

Braccialli v/s Karlovic had a very high number, over 80 aces, in 5 sets Wimbledon 2005.

Feli v/s Pimpim at Australia (2005) was another one.

ATP stats can give you the total number of points in each of those
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Karlovic/Bracciali = 84/391 = .21 < Roddick/Karlovic

Look back on a 3-setter for Ivanisevic/Sampras, probably come up with ratios closer to .3
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Re: Highest ace-point ratio ever?

Only 25/146 = 17% points won against the serve in this match. Glad it's over.
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Only 25/146 = 17% points won against the serve in this match. Glad it's over.
Well aside from the aces, there were also plenty of uncontrolled returns that went out, and plenty of rallies that consisted of serve-return-put away volley.

It would be interesting to see stats on the average number of shots per rally in this match, and the breakdown of rallies that were 1,2,3 and 4+ shots long.

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It would be interesting to see stats on the average number of shots per rally in this match
I see what you mean. But "interesting" as a word to describe any such match is ill placed.
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Re: Highest ace-point ratio ever?

It's always very interesting to check such a display of technique.
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Re: Highest ace-point ratio ever?

What I would like to know is there a match that Roddick ever played when his matches wasn't boring? And the same goes for Karlovic

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What I would like to know is there a match that Roddick ever played when his matches wasn't boring?
Roddick vs Kohli: Aus 08
vs Gasguet: Wimbledon quarters 07
vs Gulbis: Us open

and several more. I hate Roddick but I hardly find him boring as a player. (Its also great because he loses those is entertaining matches more often)

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Re: Highest ace-point ratio ever?

This grass needs to be slowed down a bit
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Re: Highest ace-point ratio ever?

Roddick vs. El Aynaoui @ AO was boring?

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This grass needs to be slowed down a bit
The opposite is true... speed them up and have more of them. We have enough slow courts these days. There is no more S&V on hard. At least keep it alive (or "bring it back to life") on grass.

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This grass needs to be slowed down a bit
Even more?
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This grass needs to be slowed down a bit
Might have little to do with surface, and lot to do with the players.

Karlo had 55 aces in his match against Hewitt at the French.
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The opposite is true... speed them up and have more of them. We have enough slow courts these days. There is no more S&V on hard. At least keep it alive (or "bring it back to life") on grass.
Speeding up the grass won't spark a renaissance in SV unless the hardcourts are correspondingly sped up - to make it worthwhile for kids and juniors coming up to adopt a serve-volley style and get success with it for more than just 1 month of the year. All that will happen if only the grass is sped up or the balls made lighter is that you'll just get big servers dominating again, whether they come to net behind it or not.
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