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Players once they lose don't want to hang around the event, more dead matches with nothing to play for, just what they want.


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Ridiculous suggestion. You could probably find a job within the ATP.
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This is tennis, not a recreation ground.
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Re: Consolation draws in ATP

The idea is not entirely without merit, and many amateur clubs adopt it for their championships, but it wouldn't work in the professional game.

Firstly would there be prize money? If so, how much? If it was too little, nobody would want to play, and if it was too much you could have the ludicrous situation of players deliberately throwing matches to enter the plate. Also where would the money come from?

There is also the question of ranking points. The plate winner could not be awarded more than the difference between first round loser points and second round loser points, (45-10 in slams) or it would be a mockery.

Players would be better off saving their energy and entering the next Challenger.

As somebody else said, the round robin was tried to give fans more chance of seeing their favourites, and it failed dismally.

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Plate championships only work in amateur sport. Still a nice idea though.
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Yeah. It's a massive dud.

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I think that when Eastbourne was a women-only event they had a consolation draw - a 'plate' event. And I think it served a specific function. If a player was knocked out in the first round, they would only have that one match on grass before Wimbledon, so I think that quite a lot of players were willing to play the consolation event to get some grass court practice.

It's bitten the dust now that it's a joint event, of course.

On other surfaces, where there are plenty of tournaments, I can't see it being very successful.
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Aye like it.

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Re: Consolation draws in ATP

personally id like to see 1 on 1 matchups

you know, like the 60s
where 2 players played 50 matches over a month

fedal playing 50 matches in 2005-2007 would have been awesome

probably huge lopsided in federer's favor

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personally id like to see 1 on 1 matchups

you know, like the 60s
where 2 players played 50 matches over a month

fedal playing 50 matches in 2005-2007 would have been awesome

probably huge lopsided in federer's favor
If on fast indoor courts as in the 1950s - yes.

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