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Federer @ RG vs Nadal@ US Open

It seems to me that people seems to think that Rafa has more chance on winning the US Open than Federer at winning the French Open.
I came to this conclusion as a lot are predicting Nadal will win a calendar slam.

I just dont get it! Yes they can both possibly win it but to give an edge to Rafa doesn't sound right.

Nadal won RG the last 4 years
Federer won the US Open the last 5 years

Federer has been in 3 RG finals
Nadal has for the first time reach US Open semis last year.

We have Djokovic,Murray and Del Potro plus Roger at US Open to beat
We only have Nadal to beat at RG.

Where's the logic?
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Re: Federer @ RG vs Nadal@ US Open

Did you see Rafael at the Olympics last year, right? The court was the same as the USO one...if Rafael plays like that he will crush everybody
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Re: Federer @ RG vs Nadal@ US Open

Easy.

Rafa= No US Open Finals/Titles
Federer= 4 RG finals/No titles

So Federer=win in 4

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Re: Federer @ RG vs Nadal@ US Open

What about

Nadal @ RG vs Federer @ US Open

More interesting fantasy.
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Re: Federer @ RG vs Nadal@ US Open

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Did you see Rafael at the Olympics last year, right? The court was the same as the USO one...if Rafael plays like that he will crush everybody
We are talking about US Open. A Gransdlam!!! everybody plays!!! and draws are made differently for countries not meet on early rounds.

Nice try!
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Well, considering the last image we have of Federer at RG is him getting bagelled, I'd say its rather fair that people would expect Nadal to win the USO sooner than Fed will win the French.

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We are talking about US Open. A Gransdlam!!! everybody plays!!! and draws are made differently for countries not meet on early rounds.

Nice try!
Well Australia is also a HC grand slam...and Rafael crushed Federror (who then started crying...oh god it's killing me ) So I don't know why can't he do the same at the USO... his only enemy is Rafael himself...if he manages to stay fit in September I have no doubt about the winner...
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Well I haven't seen that many people predicting the cal slam to tell you the truth. I've a lot of people saying if he does pull of the FO he'll have a shot at it.
That's a lot different IMO from predicting it. He will have a shot if he wins the FO, but that doesn't make it any easier. If it was easy somebody would have done it in the last 40 years.

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Well Australia is also a HC grand slam...and Rafael crushed Federror (who then started crying...oh god it's killing me ) So I don't know why can't he do the same at the USO... his only enemy is Rafael himself...if he manages to stay fit in September I have no doubt about the winner...
Crushed ??? 5 sets ?? What would you call a close match??

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Did you see Rafael at the Olympics last year, right? The court was the same as the USO one...if Rafael plays like that he will crush everybody
Nadal at the Olympics had a lot of trouble against a poor Djokovic, who was the only real opponent he played. Many players can beat him on hardcourt if they play well, like Nalbandian (who would destroy him if playing well), Federer, Djokovic (from the middle of 2007 to the middle of 2008), Tsonga (AO or Paris form), Verdasco and Murray.
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Nadal at the Olympics had a lot of trouble against a poor Djokovic, who was the only real opponent he played. Many players can beat him on hardcourt if they play well, like Nalbandian (who would destroy him if playing well), Federer, Djokovic (from the middle of 2007 to the middle of 2008), Tsonga (AO or Paris form), Verdasco and Murray.
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Federer and Nadal are 6-6 in their last 12 sets played. (5 grass, 5 HC, 2 clay) And some are calling that crushing.. I just don't get it.

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Well Australia is also a HC grand slam...and Rafael crushed Federror.....

Hardly. It was 5 sets, and Federer gave it away at key moments (errorfest tiebreak, and the final set was a total gift). With Nadal tired, it was Federer's to win - and he blew it completely.

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There are dangerous players to Nadal at the US than Federer at the French.

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Re: Federer @ RG vs Nadal@ US Open

Federer has only ever beaten Nadal on a clay court 2 times in 11 meetings. No matter whether they played on the surface in Paris, Hamburg, Madrid or the top of Everest. Federer has never beaten Nadal on a clay court in a best of 5 sets match.

Nadal has beaten Federer on a hard court 3 times in 6 meetings. Again, no matter whether it was indoors, outdoors or underwater. Nadal HAS beaten Federer on a hard court in a best of 5 sets match.

Also consider the fact that there are more threats to Federer on a hard court then there are to Nadal on a clay court. Since January '08, Nadal has only lost to Ferrero and Federer on clay. In the same time period, Federer has lost to Djokovic, Murray, Fish, Roddick, Simon, Karlovic and Nadal on hard.

Federer will be able to handle another defeat to Nadal at RG this year without affecting him too much mentally (unless he gets triple bagelled). However, if Federer wins RG, I wouldn't put it past him to win both Wimbly and the US Open aswell, seeing as winning RG would signify Fed finally growing a pair.

Most likely scenario - Nadal wins RG, most possibly defeating Federer or Djokovic in the final. If Federer loses to Nadal again at Wimbledon, I would have serious doubts about him being able to beat Nadal should they meet at the US Open, purely because Nadal has taken each of Federer's crowns, one by one. (Wimbledon, No 1 ranking, Aus Open).

In summary, Federer must beat Nadal at RG and/or Wimbledon, or else he should pray for death come US Open time. Well, either that or pray that Nadal draws Dabul in R1 at Flushing Meadows and gets schooled.


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