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Loss to Fed: Best thing for Rafa going into RG?

Again, while I hate to see Rafa ever lose to Fed, I got to thinking. This loss, while certainly a confidence booster for Fed, may very well have been the best thing for Rafa. Why?

1. Fed claimed earlier in the week that it may be better to not face Rafa until the RG final. Now, Rafa has recently faced Fed on this surface, so the element of surprise is no longer there.

2. Going into RG with no losses is not necessarily a good thing. Much like going undefeated in college basketball, unnecessary pressure builds up trying to go through a season without a loss. Because the pursuit of the "perfect" season is gone, so goes that pressure.

3. Losing to Fed is a wake-up call for Rafa. No matter how humble one is, complacency from domination leads to the potential for underestimating one's opponents. As a matter of fact, I've attributed Rafa's 2009 clay campaign (which has been less impressive than previous years) to complacency. Thinking you can bring your "B" game to a match and still winning leads one to be susceptible to the upset. One cannot simply turn it on and off, and this loss should shake Rafa out of this mindset, and

4. Most importantly, Rafa was able to see what new tactics Roger utilized BEFORE RG. Roger may have showed his cards too early, in an effort to win yesterday. Now, Rafa has experienced the changes before the biggest stage: RG. Making Rafa wait, electing to receive serve, using the drop shot, and hitting his backhand down the line to Rafa's...now, Rafa and his team can make plans to neutralize this (or counteract these tactics).

Rafa will learn from this loss. Become more motivated. Realize again that Federer (if he forgot for some reason) can still defeat him on any surface. And will silently burn with rage at Roger's winning in his back yard.

The sleeper has awakened. Opinions?

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Re: Loss to Fed: Best thing for Rafa going into RG?

Nothing new here.

It was the same after he lost in Hamburg in 07 and the same losing at Rome in 08, it did nothing to hamper Nadal at RG and this is no different.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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Rafa will win RG, this loss doesn't change a thing, he was going to before clay season started and he will now

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Re: Loss to Fed: Best thing for Rafa going into RG?

Cut these bullshit topics, please! This forum is getting ridiculous this way.

Rafa will win RG, period. The period after that you can open these kind of threads, because then it's getting interesting.
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Again, while I hate to see Rafa ever lose to Fed.... Opinions?
To be honest that's how much of your post I read. The first sentence suggested that it's going to be a bullshit piece by a Rafatard and you just contradicted yourself with the last word. So you don't want to see Roger beat Rafa and you are pissed he lost. Why the heck should I read the rest of your post? It's obvious you are going to trash anything I say in support of Roger and against the other guy you stalk in your dreams and real life... And I can't believe you are a Phillies fan with this attitude. I may have to rethink my support for that team.

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Re: Loss to Fed: Best thing for Rafa going into RG?

Oh, heavens.
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To be honest that's how much of your post I read. The first sentence suggested that it's going to be a bullshit piece by a Rafatard and you just contradicted yourself with the last word. So you don't want to see Roger beat Rafa and you are pissed he lost. Why the heck should I read the rest of your post? It's obvious you are going to trash anything I say in support of Roger and against the other guy you stalk in your dreams and real life... And I can't believe you are a Phillies fan with this attitude. I may have to rethink my support for that team.
Spot on. Interesting how a lose always seems to be the best thing after it occurs. I'm sure if by some strange turn of fate that Nadal lost at RG, it would then be the best thing for a shot at his second straight Wimbledon.

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Sorry mate, but you just failed logic class !
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Re: Loss to Fed: Best thing for Rafa going into RG?

I was just thinking about this earlier. I 100% agree with this topic. I regrettably have to agree that this will wake Nadal up and make it nearly impossible for someone to sneak up on him in RG.

and seriously guys if you don't read the rest of his thread than you can't even see that it is a well tought out topic.

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Spot on. Interesting how a lose always seems to be the best thing after it occurs. I'm sure if by some strange turn of fate that Nadal lost at RG, it would then be the best thing for a shot at his second straight Wimbledon.
If he loses at RG, this server will blow up.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Re: Loss to Fed: Best thing for Rafa going into RG?

Nadal will only lose RG if he has some very bad injury, besides that i honestly don't think anything else will effect him.
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Spot on. Interesting how a lose always seems to be the best thing after it occurs. I'm sure if by some strange turn of fate that Nadal lost at RG, it would then be the best thing for a shot at his second straight Wimbledon.
Nadal never loses unless he is tired, his leg is hurting or is suffering from something. He is like 1000-0 when he is completely healthy. All these other players like Fed, Djokovic, or Murray can't possibly be tired and lose to Rafa and they can't possibly beat a healthy Rafa. Rafa is always planning something with wins or losses. He is always thinking ahead. You know. This time according to our dear friend, he is preparing for RG and now that he has lost to Roger, he is not going to have any doubts he will beat him in RG.

Don't get me wrong. I am not saying Roger will or won't beat Rafa. I just don't care anymore after 3 years Roger has let me down. But, to come out and say, "I hate to see Rafa lose to Roger" and then try to make a credible argument it's just plain stupid.

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oh by the way, the mods should close this thread. This is obviously another effort to test the competence of our dear mods here.

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Re: Loss to Fed: Best thing for Rafa going into RG?

I was not saying this because he lost. I've felt this way every year. Call it what you will, but losing before a grand slam is actually, in many ways, a good thing. And that goes for any sport. As long as its not the last match or game

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