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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 05-18-2009, 01:38 PM Thread Starter
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Post Mischa Zverev or Andreas Beck - Who is Germany's Biggest Hope?

Not sure if anything similar has been discussed but at the minute i see German tennis as really on a decline and with Kiefer, Haas and Schuettler approaching their final years on the tour most proparbly,and with Zverev and Beck both making breakthroughs in the clay court masters 1000's recently, i am just wondering who you feel has the most potential and talent for Germany to be optimistic about.

Beck although being slightly older has not really been playing in high profile tournements since turning pro in 03 and therefore in terms of main level is proberbly as experianced as Zverev, both have very difefrent game styles, Beck likes to play from the baseline, has a very good first serve and big groundstrokes and is very much an attacking player, however does not like to defend and does not move great.

Zverev however moves unbelievably well for a guy of his size and has great speed and agility, he is also very acomplished at the net and defends well, however although he can finish off short balls i question his ability to hit clean winners from the baseline and generate enough power to really trouble guys pinned behind the baseline. he has great touch though and can implement that to his advanatges also.

I believe that Zverev is more talented and will have a better career given his better movement and all round variety on the court.
He is slightly higher ranked at current although both are in the top 65.

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10 years ago Haas, Kiefer and (more or less) Schuettler appeared as poor successors of Becker and Stich, now Zverev and Beck look like poor successors of Haas and Kiefer. German tennis has been in big slump for a few years, even worser situation in Sweden.

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10 years ago Haas, Kiefer and (more or less) Schuettler appeared as poor successors of Becker and Stich, now Zverev and Beck look like poor successors of Haas and Kiefer. German tennis has been in big slump for a few years, even worser situation in Sweden.
YH i totally agree, i personally dont see either of these two being anything special, i can see Mischa being a solid top 20 player within a year or 2 and maybe Beck being within the fringe of the top 30 - 50 within his career and yes Sweeden is really struggling at current. Soderling is a very talented guy but just cannot produce what he is capable of at important moments.
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Zverev should pick up more points on grass and indoors. But Beck will be ranked higher because of the ATP's clay bias.
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i think zverev is a better player
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Re: Mischa Zverev or Andreas Beck - Who is Germany's Biggest Hope?

Neither. It would be Jaden Gil
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Re: Mischa Zverev or Andreas Beck - Who is Germany's Biggest Hope?

In H2H, Beck leads 2-0
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Beck. Not looking gut für Deutschland though.

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Beck. He just seems to play more consistant than Zverev. They're both very talented

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Re: Mischa Zverev or Andreas Beck - Who is Germany's Biggest Hope?

Haas appeared certain to be a great successor ten years ago...however hes been injured all the time,,feel sorry for the guy. Probably would have been number one and a multi grand slam champion if not for so many injuries.
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Re: Mischa Zverev or Andreas Beck - Who is Germany's Biggest Hope?

Zve has more talent, therefore he's the biggest hope. In terms of like who's gonna produce if you put them on court tomorrow, I'd say Beck. I think Mischa's gonna take some time to mature, ya know, find his game. IMHO, he's a future top 10er.

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I don't see either of them in Top 10, maybe one of them will reach Top 20, and I agree with Jimnik's post, so maybe Beck will break one day into Top 20 thanks to clay-court tournaments.

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Agree with Voo, Beck could reach the top20 someday,but no bright future for german tennis all in all...
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10 years ago Haas, Kiefer and (more or less) Schuettler appeared as poor successors of Becker and Stich, now Zverev and Beck look like poor successors of Haas and Kiefer. German tennis has been in big slump for a few years, even worser situation in Sweden.
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