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Berdych: I don't like academies

Interviewed Tomas this week and although he splurted out a fair amount of cliches, he did slag off the culture of parents sending their kids to tennis academies rather than teaching them themselves. Personally, I don't agree with him. Whatif the parents aren't talented enough to teach their kids? and who's to say they know about nutrition and psychology etc?

Still, it is nice to have the quality time.

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Re: Berdych: I don't like academies

This can go both ways, but I agree with him totally. Academies can turn a talented children into a useless robot. Just look at American players nowaways makes me laugh hard, they all have the same technique in near every stroke. The coaches usually force the children to play what's "scientifically" correct, what they think is right. They do not let the children follow their own body language, allow them to discover their own true potential.

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Re: Berdych: I don't like academies

Forehander is right, look Nadal, Federer, Davydenko, didn't go to academies. It depends on the academy, there is no tried and true way to make it, both paths have their own advantages and weaknesses.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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Re: Berdych: I don't like academies

Theres always going to be different opinions on this and his judgement is fair enough and so are the acadamies, there are advanatges and disadvantages to both but i feel both are as good as one another given that parents may be better but academies are there for parents who are not well capable enough to use this method.
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I find it somewhat ironic because to me Tomas has got one of the most mechanical games out there, that you'd think that he came from an academy cookie-cutter.
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I find it somewhat ironic because to me Tomas has got one of the most mechanical games out there, that you'd think that he came from an academy cookie-cutter.
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I find it somewhat ironic because to me Tomas has got one of the most mechanical games out there, that you'd think that he came from an academy cookie-cutter.
His tennis stroke especially his forehand is quite unique, something obviously you can only do by listening to your own body creating your own style.

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I find it somewhat ironic because to me Tomas has got one of the most mechanical games out there, that you'd think that he came from an academy cookie-cutter.
Ginepri is the factory player.

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I find it somewhat ironic because to me Tomas has got one of the most mechanical games out there, that you'd think that he came from an academy cookie-cutter.
wtf? you blind or something? have you ever seen berdych play?

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American academies are the main antagonits for tennis stroke development. I mean every up and coming kid is 'nurtured' in the same robotic, mundane way. I'd rather have the unorthodox technique and the 'conventional'. Could you imagine Graf or Federer with 'standard' forehands?

Players like Ginepri, Reynolds, Isner, are examples of this.
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American academies are the main antagonits for tennis stroke development. I mean every up and coming kid is 'nurtured' in the same robotic, mundane way. I'd rather have the unorthodox technique and the 'conventional'. Could you imagine Graf or Federer with 'standard' forehands?

Players like Ginepri, Reynolds, Isner, are examples of this.
Isner did not learn to play from an academy. Regardless of where he learned to play, though, his game would most likely be similar to what he does now since he's limited by his size.

Incidentally, neither Blake nor Querrey grew up at academies. Roddick and Fish went to high school together (a traditional one) and spent time playing with other top young Americans in the Boca Raton area. To my knowledge, the group they played with only learned from one coach, but it was more like just a traditional tennis club than an academy.

Americans having similar games is more a product of similar courts (fast hardcourt) all over the country and most juniors growing up playing on these. This is changing, but it will take time. Young, for instance, does not have the "normal" American game. There's no need to develop beautiful backhands and volleys and how to construct points when you can just hit a big serve and forehand. This logic wasn't flawed until the courts began being slowed down over the past decade to make the game more interesting to watch. American tennis has to respond to that, and in my opinion it is. Patrick Mcenroe, who is now in charge of junior development at the USTA, actually just had a conference call with reporters outlining the changes he will be making to respond to this.

IMG/Bollettierri's academy has done a lot to popularize the aggressive baseliner game beginning with Agassi, but none of the top Americans, men or women, learned to play from him when they were teens. I don't know how his school compares to some of the major European ones.
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Re: Berdych: I don't like academies

academies are necessary to a point... i mean, you need a certain amount of grooving... and can improve the comfort a player feels with a wide variety of peers/opponents...

the most important thing to cater to is a players personality, gifts, who/what style they admire, etc etc... acadmey or not, if enough time is given to discovering what it actually is about tennis that excites a player then the battle is won right there... merging the style a player likes or enjoys into what they can realistically perform becomes much easier this way - instead of fitting triangle and square blocks into countless round holes...

if approached this way, academies will actually serve to disarm the 'ballbasher'... as the thoughtful/creative will learn to live with them first, then fuse their style on top...

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Re: Berdych: I don't like academies

Personally I don´t understand why it should be a choice between going to academies or being coached by parents. Parents are rarely the best coaches, but it´s possible to get quality coaching without sending the kids to a boot camp. Every major city has quality clubs with good coaching.

What worries me most with these academies is not their effect on the style of play, but the effect on the kids themselves. It´s usually the parents who see potential in their children and decide to send them away. For every Agassi or Haas that come from the Bollettieri academy there are at least 1000 kids who work their asses off away from their friends and family, and still don´t make it. It´s just cruel to put young children through something like that.
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Re: Berdych: I don't like academies

Sending to an academy or getting a coach in the city club, parents should not leave children alone, should watch them practice and play and try to learn as much as possible about tennis as they can. Tennis is a "parent sport". It's 100% true. Or, as an alternative, you need to have a talented uncle
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Berdych is not a robot. He has one of the most variable tennis abilities out there together with Murray.

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