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Big stakes for Federer tomorrow

Very important game for Federer tomorrow, where he has a lot to gain if he wins:

-first Masters title since 2007
-first title of the year
-first win against Nadal since 2007 (TMC)

-psychological boost for future games against Nadal
-ditto for a potential Roland Garros win to complete the GS

-overall increase in confidence after the recent decline

Tomorrow's match basically has the potential to significantly influence the rest of the season.

For the same reason it's an important game for Nadal, because he will absolutely want to counter any belief Federer may have in beating him, particularly on clay.

After Andy Murray beat Nadal at the US Open and Rotterdam, consecutively, he came back strongly at Indian Wells to reduce the confidence Murray gained against him since recovering from the Wimbledon straight sets loss.

A Federer win tomorrow could be the first step towards a "comeback" (number 2 in the world isn't usually something to make a comeback from), whereas a loss would further reduce any hope he has against Nadal on clay (unless he loses in 3 close ones).

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Re: Big stakes for Federer tomorrow

Not quite. Federer doesn't care about Masters Series events nearly as much as GS's....so don't expect him to go all out to win. Not that he would win anyway.
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Re: Big stakes for Federer tomorrow

If I play a bad match he will lose as always, no?
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Re: Big stakes for Federer tomorrow

fed will be crying like a little bitch after the match regardless of if he wins or not.
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Re: Big stakes for Federer tomorrow

If he wins, it will help his hurt confidence no doubt, but it will not increase his chances in French Open at all.

Federer still has many issues to take care of, his last comment on being thankful the Hard Court season is over was surprising, nonetheless he has to know that he has a very good chance tomorrow.

If he loses......I don't even know, more of the same as of late...

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Re: Big stakes for Federer tomorrow

even if he won, it won't change the prospect of his RG final against Nadal the slightest bit, think of Hamburg 2007 one more time, even a bagel wasn't enough.

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Re: Big stakes for Federer tomorrow

If he wins tomorrow a chunk of pressure will be off his back, who knows.. he may even hit.. a deep backhand shot against Nadal!
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Re: Big stakes for Federer tomorrow

All that is at stake IMO regardless of a win or a loss is just how much more of his ego he has yet to overcome. It stands in the way of any hoped for success against Rafa. And time is a precious commodity as his body is already showing signs of wear.
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Not quite. Federer doesn't care about Masters Series events nearly as much as GS's....so don't expect him to go all out to win. Not that he would win anyway.
I agree with the suggestion that Federer mainly plays for the GS's, which is something I've suspected for a while now. Of course, this doesn't mean he's tanking other tournaments, but not going all out, as you say.

However, I think tomorrow's game is actually worth going all out for, because there is so much to win out there.

I personally think Federer was hoping not to meet Nadal before RG, but now that he will, he must really go for it.

Also, if he wins tomorrow he's going to go to Roland Garros with a certain aura, being the only other player to win one of the main clay court events.

On the other hand if he loses, he won't even be the 2nd best at RG, because as it stands Djokovic is the man to beat after Nadal.

If Federer and Djokovic end up on the same side of the table in Paris, AND Federer loses tomorrow, then Djokovic takes him.

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Re: Big stakes for Federer tomorrow

Nadal will demolish Federer tomorrow. Once and for all.
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If he wins, it will help his hurt confidence no doubt, but it will not increase his chances in French Open at all.
Maybe not the French Open, but keeping in mind that he hasn't beaten Rafa in ages, (5 losses in a row and counting), and that he hasn't won anything since the US Open, a win will definitely come as a big boost.

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Re: Big stakes for Federer tomorrow

This is such an interesting match tomorrow... Nadal will definitely win, the question is the scorline. If it's close, Federer will say how he can compete with Nadal even on clay and he will feel good after the last clay trashing. If it's easy, then I'm sure Federer will make an excuse but really there's no excuse he's been playing great tennis all week. I expect something like 6-4, 6-3.
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even if he won, it won't change the prospect of his RG final against Nadal the slightest bit, think of Hamburg 2007 one more time, even a bagel wasn't enough.
I agree. A win would be nice for confidence reasons but it won't affect a possible RG-meeting.


Anyway: If Fed can't win tomorrow he should keep his mouth shut for any more "I can still rattle Nadal" comments. This will really be the best chance he will get.

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I agree. A win would be nice for confidence reasons but it won't affect a possible RG-meeting.


Anyway: If Fed can't win tomorrow he should keep his mouth shut for any more "I can still rattle Nadal" comments. This will really be the best chance he will get.
Agree with you on all accounts.
Do keep in mind that even IF he manages to pull out a win (which I don't expect whatsoever), we'll be reading all the 'tired'-excuses once again.

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Re: Big stakes for Federer tomorrow

Fed has a good chance tomorrow. Nadal will be exhausted and the surface is nearly hard court than clay court. Good match to see for sure.

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