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Nadal and Djokovic about slam rankings

World number one Rafael Nadal suggested a two-year system would be a fairer way to decide men's tennis rankings after his Serb rival Novak Djokovic said the current 12-month system was cruel.

Djokovic lost his number three ranking to Andy Murray despite landing a second title of the year in Belgrade at the weekend and reaching the last three Masters Series finals.
Nadal said he had talked to Djokovic about the issue and agreed the current system of defending points won a year ago needed changing.
"I think a ranking based on two years would be much better in terms of being relaxed and, from my point of view, would allow me to lengthen my career," Nadal said after crushing Austria's Juergen Melzer at the Madrid Open.
"It's an important change."

Players on the ATP tour have to defend the points they earned during the same week a year earlier, so the reigning champion at an event can only maintain his points tally, not improve it.
"Playing three Masters Series finals in a row and winning a 250 event (in Belgrade) is incredible success and even then you are dropping a spot down in the rankings," Djokovic said.
"That shows how cruel the ranking system is in this sport."
"Federer or Nadal have been winning four or five grand slams in a row and they haven't won a single point," Djokovic added after beating Spain's Oscar Hernandez in the second round.


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"I don't want to create any controversy because in the end it looks like I'm the one causing it," said Nadal, the vice-president of the ATP Player Council below Federer.
"I've been saying for some time now that for me, it would be better to have a two-year ranking system; it would be better for the players."
Nadal, who has on the whole managed to avoid serious injury problems although his knees occasionally become a weak point from the wear and tear his athletic style puts on them, added: "If you have an injury it's (the absence) not going to hurt you as much. You could also choose a bit more where you play and where you don't play.
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Both b*tches trying to manipulate rankings. They want top stay forever at the top.

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I disagrre. A 2 year system wouls allow mugs who may have had one good tournament stay higher up for longer/ and it would not allow young up and comers a chance to rise.

nadal and Djoke are just trying to cushion their lofty places in the rankings for longer periods of time. Does this indicate they are scared of loosing points soon?

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Bullshit from both.

Djokovic lost his ranking because he crapped out against Roddick at the Aussie and Indian Wells, and choked when he had a shot at taking #2 in the first few weeks of the year, while Murray has been winning TMS events left, right, and center.

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What is Rafa talking about? :retard:
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A 2 year system would allow almagro to remain in the top 20 when he sucks now and in the current system is rightfully drpooing out of the top 32.

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I wonder how they would have liked that system when they had to rise up the rankings. of the highest order
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Is Rafa drunk?


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Re: Nadal and Djokovic about slam rankings

How about like in golf where the second year only accounts for 25% and the last year counting for the remaining 75%...that's not such a bad idea.
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How about like in golf where the second year only accounts for 25% and the last year counting for the remaining 75%...that's not such a bad idea.
Yeah, I kinda prefer the WGR method, from an injury standpoint.
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I disagrre. A 2 year system wouls allow mugs who may have had one good tournament stay higher up for longer/ and it would not allow young up and comers a chance to rise.

Yeah - especially safin and schuettler. There are ways of handling that though, eg basing rankings on median points performance with weightings, so one fluke outlier success doesn't keep you high in the rankings for ages.
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hehe..ATP ranking just changed as of Jan 01/09, to make it more rapid and they're talking about it with delay?! Where were they before?

I am sure Rog would bless this crazy idea too. This system works the best for old players, who're close to retire or already starting going downhill (Roger Federer), for the players who are already on top 5 (Nadal, Roger, Murray, Djokovic, delpo)...and favours nobody else. The emergence of the young guns would be way deleyed!!

And in term of tennis career being such a short, that would create GOATs easily!
Not good.
I agree that ranking system in term of #ATP points per tourney is cruel, but that's different issue.
NOPE, one yera term is still the best!!

And yeah, Rafa knows very well what he is talking about: he has almost 16000 (8000 by old system) ATP points (there will be even more than that as of next Monday) - and now is looking for the way to cement it!
Nope again!
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Re: Nadal and Djokovic about slam rankings

from both. The current ranking rules are fine.

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Regarding new two year proposal it would be possible that someone wins 3 GS in a season, yet just to finish it at #2!??!

And then again, once a player does too poor, he would be still sitting at the top, thanks to his performance he did two years ago?!! Makes no sense to me.
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