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Apology yes or no?

when a player earned a "net cord" point (a point when the ball bounces off the net cord and directly forces his opponent to default), he raises his hand/racket for a sort of apology to his opponent for a such a point. Vast majority of them do it.

What such a gesture actually mean?
-regretting? ("I'll never do it again")
-sorrow? ("I didn't mean it. I will do UE at my very next shott to compensate you")
-announcing his own luck? ("Look, the luck is on my side. You're done").
-unhappiness for a cheap point? (was the point really cheap??)("I feel terrible for making this types of point for myself. My very next point I will do UE to equalise my ruined feelings").
-telling his own skills ("see what I am able to do!!")
-something else??

Is it a good manner or a bad manner?
Is there any need for the gesture?
Hint: In 80es they never did it.

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Re: Apology yes or no?

Surely they are just acknowledging that they had a bit of good luck, and it was bad luck for the opponent?

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It's a meme: goes from generation to generation of tennis players, learned visually. We make the opponent feel that we are sorry... although we are not really sorry, but instead happy to win the "cheap point."

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Re: Apology yes or no?

For me it's stupid gesture (they do it also after hitting the ball with the frame of the racquet), I never use it playing tennis or table tennis. IMO there's no need for this gesture, it is very automatic and conformistic, isn't connected with real feelings. Netcord is a part of the game like all court lines. Players are happy winning the point and pretend to feel some freaky kind of sorrow etc. They should apologize only hitting the opponent with the ball if it's accidental.

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Re: Apology yes or no?

Tennis is a gentleman's sport. A gentleman doesn't rejoice in the unlucky misfortunes for their opponents. It's little more than tradition...but the idea is basically good sportsmanship.

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For me it's stupid gesture (they do it also after hitting the ball with the frame of the racquet), I never use it playing tennis or table tennis. IMO there's no need for this gesture, it is very automatic and conformistic, isn't connected with real feelings. Netcord is a part of the game like all court lines. Players are happy winning the point and pretend to feel some freaky kind of sorrow etc. They should apologize only hitting the opponent with the ball if it's accidental.
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There's only 1 person that shouldn't apologise, and that is... Juan Monaco, the King on Netcords.

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Re: Apology yes or no?

It depends on the netcord, sometimes it gets a lucky bounce, sometimes it doesn't.
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nobody used to do it until the past few years, so it's not a tradition, unless maybe they did it like 100 years ago. personally i prefer to raise my arms over my head in triumph whenever i get a netcord in my favor.
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nobody used to do it until the past few years, so it's not a tradition, unless maybe they did it like 100 years ago. personally i prefer to raise my arms over my head in triumph whenever i get a netcord in my favor.
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I like it. Needs to be accompanied by a wink though.
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Tennis is a gentleman's sport. A gentleman doesn't rejoice in the unlucky misfortunes for their opponents. It's little more than tradition...but the idea is basically good sportsmanship.
yeah. Is there any sport not to be a gentleman's sport? The synonims: sport = fair = gentleman's.

BTW, what's unsporty (unfair) with the ball striking the net cord and fell to one side of the net? It could've gone either way? Couldn't it? Why doesn't the other opponent apologise when the ball bounces off the net cord and get back to the striker's side??? Isn't that bad luck for his opponent? Wouldn't it be gentleman's manner for his opponent to apologise?? Yet, nobody do it in that case. So, they appear to be "one-sided-sportsmen"!? lol
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nobody used to do it until the past few years, so it's not a tradition, unless maybe they did it like 100 years ago. personally i prefer to raise my arms over my head in triumph whenever i get a netcord in my favor.
I would also like to show the middle finger to the opponent immediately following this gesture.
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Re: Apology yes or no?

I feel bad, because it wasn't a shot I meant to hit - a total accident, I find it appropriate to acknowledge such a thing. It's not quite that I'm sorry I won the point, but more, sorry (for my opponent) that a bad/otherwise normal/good shot became a good/great/phenomenal shot because I did something not down to my "skill".
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I feel bad, because it wasn't a shot I meant to hit - a total accident, I find it appropriate to acknowledge such a thing. It's not quite that I'm sorry I won the point, but more, sorry (for my opponent) that a bad/otherwise normal/good shot became a good/great/phenomenal shot because I did something not down to my "skill".
You said it perfectly.
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