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Where are the teenagers ? (Top 100 getting older and older)

No i am not looking for young sex partners.

I just noticed that the youngest top 100 (Del Potro and Cilic) are already 20yrs and 7 months.
It never happened that the youngest top 100 player was so "old" (since the ranking exists).

Nishikori (19yo and 4 months) was the only teenager in top 100 until 2 weeks ago. He is now 118th and the highest ranked teenager. Young (162th) and Klein (188th) are the two other ones in top 200.

I also found out that average age of top 100 players is the oldest since at least 1994 (about 26,5yo.):



How would you interpet that ?

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mug era!!!

had to say it before some troll does, anyway...

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Very well spotted like Habib said.
It's undeniable, and I wonder if there's anyone around here who is able to come up with a good theory on the reason why.
I surely can't think of anything aside, perhaps, from the fact that the game has become more 'physical' in the past decade or so, and guys usually tend to become stronger physically until their 23-25 years of age.

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the fact that the game has become more 'physical'

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I can't speak for the rest of the world, but have some thoughts on the US. In this country you can sign one 5 contract in baseball, football, or basketball and make what Federer has in his entire career. If you were a parent, where would you push your kids. Unfortunately tennis is rapidly becoming a distant choice for young athletes in this country, and only recently have we began to try to do something about it. It remains to be seen if we can turn this thing around.
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Re: Where are teenagers ?

thought about that some time ago. no idea why. I guess it's just coincidence. we'll see.

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No i am not looking for young sex partners.

I just noticed that the youngest top 100 (Del Potro and Cilic) are already 20yrs and 7 months.
It never happened that the youngest top 100 player was so "old" (since the ranking exists).

Nishikori (19yo and 4 months) was the only teenager in top 100 until 2 weeks ago. He is now 118th and the highest ranked teenager. Young (162th) and Klein (188th) are the two other ones in top 200.

I also found out that average age of top 100 players is the oldest since at least 1994 (about 26,5yo.):



How would you interpet that ?
players are in better shape and are playing longer...not getting injured as much or coming back from injury faster.


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Very well spotted like Habib said.
It's undeniable, and I wonder if there's anyone around here who is able to come up with a good theory on the reason why.
I surely can't think of anything aside, perhaps, from the fact that the game has become more 'physical' in the past decade or so, and guys usually tend to become stronger physically until their 23-25 years of age.
Definitely, this.Kids just can't keep up in the long baseline rallies against physically much stronger opponents.Talent alone is just not enough anymore.
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players are in better shape and are playing longer...not getting injured as much or coming back from injury faster.

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Evo is the highest ranked born 1990 onwards...and he's ranked down at 320!

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This may be pure speculation but this might as well also come from sense that education is important and that you need good grades for the time after yout tennis career, especcially if you keep at future or challenger level.

To be honest if I had a kid that wanted to end school and start a tennis chareer at the age of 15 I would try to keep him from that, as well
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This may be pure speculation but this might as well also come from sense that education is important and that you need good grades for the time after yout tennis career, especcially if you keep at future or challenger level.

To be honest if I had a kid that wanted to end school and start a tennis chareer at the age of 15 I would try to keep him from that, as well
Although I agree with you as I would make sure my kids had an education first; I still find so many of the parents of these guys live off their children.
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Re: Where are teenagers ?

Perhaps being in the top 100 is more viable financially (as a career) than ever before leading to players sticking around longer. Or maybe players from less wealthy countries are increasingly involved and thus seeing it that way.
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Mug era. Older players can keep playing until they're over 30 because competition is a freaking joke.

Moya is the perfect example.
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It's just the Fabrice Santoro effect . He was hitting 30 years old around the start of that graph (1995) and as he get's older he just pulls the line higher and higher. Now that he's approaching 100 it's going to take at least 10 teenagers entering the top 100 to balance out his impact.

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