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post #136 of 534 (permalink) Old 10-29-2010, 10:34 PM
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Re: Is the peak age of tennis players getting older?

It appears more and more difficult for teenagers to have breakthroughs now, especially at Grand Slams, than it was years ago. I mean look, you had Becker/Chang who were 17, Borg who was 18 when they won their first slams, and now it is quite difficult to find a GS winner under 20. If I remember correctly, in the last 10 years, Nadal was the youngest at 19. Then of course you have a couple 20/21 year olds with Roddick/Hewitt/Safin/Djokovic/Del Potro.

Then again, they are only a few years off each other as 17-21 isn't a HUGE difference, but I think it would make sense especially how the game has evolved into a very physical sport. Players' bodies need to become more mature and stronger, which obviously takes time. You don't see these skinny 16-18 year olds from the 80s running around doing some damage at the slams.

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The "next generation" after murray/djoko seemed to be delpot/cilic/gulbis, a year younger, and all born within a few days. Only DelPot really did anything so far.
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Re: Is the peak age of tennis players getting older?

yeah, major winning youth and even tour ready youth seems to be in a lull right at this moment in time...whether that has something to with tour rigour or the 09 pts change or whatever i'm not sure...but, i believe for sure that the elder statesmen have never had it so good in the last 2 decades as right now should they want to hang around beyond their 30th bday...
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Someone should analyse the average Age of finalists.
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Unfortunately, we cannot say for sure what the average age of peak performance will be among today's players as the date of their career high ranking is still uncertain. However, we can look at the average age of career high of the top players in the past. The top 50 players of 1980 reached their career high at 25.74 on average. The 1995 top 50 had an average career high age of 25.02.

I suspect that the average age of peak performance will still be around 25, but players are now performing close to their career best for longer (or at least at older ages). For example, players like Ljubicic, Chela and Nieminen are performing well at older ages but aren't reaching new career highs. This phenomenon increases the average age of the top 100 but doesn't increase the age in which players peak.

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Players are developing slower. Federer was ranked 14 before his 20th birthday. Nadal was ranked 2 when he was 19-years-old. Now there are no teenagers in the top 100. So none of them will be playing hectic schedules (aka winning) until they are in their 20s. So the prime age of emerging players today should be later because of that.
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Yes, but I would also guess that the potential length of that peak is shorter due to the physicality of the sport today.
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Statracket did this properly.

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1 year and half later, still no teenagers in the top 100, and the youngest player in the next ranking will be Dolgopolov (22y 0m 1d).

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Prodigy teens are born in Mallorca once in a while
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Doesnt this just suggest this is not a mug era? The fact that talented teens can't in fact break into the top 100 and challenge the top guys from this era shows how tough the competition has become, NOT how weak the quality of the pool of teens (poor D.Young).

To be honest, spindly 17 and 18 year olds breaking through and winning a GS or two like Chang and Becker doesnt say much for the overall quality of the guys at the very highest levels in those apparently "strong" eras.

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Doesnt this just suggest this is not a mug era? The fact that talented teens can't in fact break into the top 100 and challenge the top guys from this era shows how tough the competition has become, NOT how weak the quality of the pool of teens (poor D.Young).

To be honest, spindly 17 and 18 year olds breaking through and winning a GS or two like Chang and Becker doesnt say much for the overall quality of the guys at the very highest levels in those apparently "strong" eras.
Not really, more like it shows how hard it is to break through as a youngster when everyone ranked ahead of you plays virtually the same or similar style. There's no room for a talented youngster with a well rounded game to stand out because the surfaces and styles of play have become so homogenized.

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Not really, more like it shows how hard it is to break through as a youngster when everyone ranked ahead of you plays virtually the same or similar style. There's no room for a talented youngster with a well rounded game to stand out because the surfaces and styles of play have become so homogenized.
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It is all mental. If a player has the mindset of your post, then he definitely won't break through.

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