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At the department of forgotten players

There are tons of players who deserve to be remembered for different reasons.
If they don't make GS final and/or top five ranking it can be hard to recall them all, though.
So. Do you have any players you want to bring back to the spotlight?

I begin with some countrymen:


Jonas B Svensson
, born 1966, ATP debut 1983, 5 singles titles, best ranking 10 (1991), retired 1995
Description: Jonas had a great feel for the game, pretty strong mentally - a baseliner with natural strokes. No significant weapons, but a nice allround game.
Highlights: FO SF 1988, where he beat Nystrom and Carlsson in five sets before demolishing Lendl in the quarters in straights, and SF in FO 1990 (losing to Agassi).


Magnus Larsson, born 1970, ATP debut 1988, 7 singles titles, best ranking 10 (1995), retired 2003
Description: Tall, slow guy, who came across as a bit lazy, perhaps (hello, Marc Rosset!). But my God did he have talent! When he was on he could beat any guy on any surface. Strong serve and powerful groundstrokes, and wasn't really scared by anyone. When he peaked in the mid 90s he broke his foot, and never reached top ten again.
Highlights: SF in FO 1994, Won Grand Slam Cup 1994, Won David Cup with Sweden 1994 and 1997.

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but you had just enough pathos to keep me hypnotized"

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Sweden always provided grat players, with great talent. Larsson was talented, even more than Norman, I think. He was a player who deserved a better ranking in his career, but opponents were very strong. I prefer him than ToJo, PimPim or Norman.

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Larsson is a good example of a player who deserves an "honorable mention" in an overview of Open Era tennis. I think it was 2003 when he went five sets with Hewitt at the AO, the same year that the guy retired.

Funnily enough, Francisco Clavet was another guy who retired in the same year in which he went the distance with Hewitt in the Australian's prime. Clavet was kind of like an ATP version of Conchita Martinez, who could really draw players into his way of playing, and frustrated players in a manner not unlike Santoro.

There are so many guys who might be forgotten but deserve not to be. Hicham Arazi, Jerome Golmard, Julien Boutter, Karol Kucera, Nicolas Escude...
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Jay Berger (USA)
Born: 1966 - Career High Rank: #7 (16-Apr-90) - Height: 5' 11" - Weight: 75kg
Singles Titles: 3 (Beonos Aires, Sao Paulo, Charleston)
Berger turned professional in 1985. He played on the tour from 1985–91.
Grand Slam Best: 1989 Australian Open and French Open Quarter Finalist
  • He won his first top-level singles title in 1986 at BA. In 1988, he captured both the singles and doubles titles at Sao Paulo. In March he upset world # 2 Mats Wilander, 6–0, 7–5, in Orlando, Florida. In March 1989 Berger upset world # 3 Boris Becker, 6–1, 6–1, in Indian Wells. In May he upset world # 3 Mats Wilander, 6–3, 6–4, in Rome In August Berger beat world # 3 Stefan Edberg, 6–4, 6–2, at Indianapolis.
  • The most unusual aspect of Berger's game was an awkward, no-wind-up service motion in which the racket was started behind his shoulder, with no backswing. This service motion was adopted after a shoulder injury during junior tennis which made a normal service motion painful.
  • Berger was famous for using the aluminum Prince Pro oversize racquet, despite the fact that virtually all professionals were using graphite (or graphite composite) racquets. He continued to play with the Prince Pro, despite not having any endorsements from Prince. He still plays with the Prince Pro to this day.
  • Berger's racquets were strung at very high tensions, using inexpensive Prince Synthetic Gut string. It was not unusual to see his racquets getting warped out of shape with any moderate impact, since the tensions were at least 90 lb on many occasions (normal tension for that racquet was from 65–80 lb). During a match he would go through 5–6 rackets on average.
  • He was known for fiercely contesting long points. He would also write notes to himself during changeovers.

Derrick Rostagno (USA)
Born 1965 - Career High Rank: #13 (11-Nov-91) - Weight: 75kg - Height 6'1"
Singles Titles: 1 (New Haven)
Rostagno turned professional in 1986.
Grand Slam Best: 1988 US Open Quarter Finalist
  • Rostagno's best performance at a Grand Slam event came at the 1988 US Open, where he reached the quarterfinals before being defeated by Ivan Lendl. At several other Grand Slam events, he defeated or almost defeated several tennis hall of famers. At Wimbledon in 1988, Rostagno lost a five-set third round match to Jimmy Connors, who at the time was ranked fifth in the world. At the 1989 US Open, Rostagno had a match point in his second round encounter with Boris Becker, who won that point on a lucky net cord passing shot and eventually the match 1–6, 6–7, 6–3, 7–6, 6–3, en route to his lone US Open title. At Wimbledon in 1990, Rostagno defeated John McEnroe in straight sets in the first round. At Wimbledon in 1991, Rostagno defeated ninth ranked pete Sampras in four sets in the second round and Connors in straight sets in the third round.
  • Rostagno finished his career with a 3–2 win-loss record versus McEnroe, winning their last three matches, and a 2–3 record versus Connors, winning their last two matches. Against other top players, Rostagno was 2–1 versus Sampras, 1–0 versus Yannick Noah, 1–1 versus Mats Wilander, 2–3 versus Lendl, 1–2 versus Becker, 3–6 versus Jim Courier, 0–1 versus Michael Chang, 0–1 versus Todd Martin, 0–2 versus Andre Agassi, and 0–4 versus Stefan Edberg.
  • Rostagno's career-high singles ranking was thirteenth in 1991. His career prize-money earnings totaled US$1,621,535. He retired from the professional tour in 1996.
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Rostagno said one highlight of his career was at Wimbledon in 1990 when he knocked out three-time champion McEnroe in the first round. It was one of only two times in McEnroe’s career that he lost in the first round at Wimbledon.
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“It was a funny story. He was so angry after that match he said to the press he would never lose to me again,’’ Rostagno recalled. “Then we had to play in the semifinals the following week in Washington and I beat him there. It was hilarious in the press. They showed the interview and they showed his words. Two weeks later we played for a third time in the same summer and we were in a tie-breaker in the third set and he got so angry at something I don’t recall that he threw his racket and was defaulted. I was his nightmare that summer.”
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Vijay Amritraj (IND)

Birthdate: 14-Dec-53
Birthplace: Madras, India
Height: 6'4'' (193 cm)
Weight: 190 lbs (86 kg)
Plays: Right-handed


SINGLES CAREER TITLES (16): 1973--Bretton Woods, New Delhi; 1974--Washington, Beckenham; 1975--Columbus, Calcutta; 1976--Memphis WCT, Newport; 1977--Auckland, Bombay; 1978--Mexico City; 1979--Bombay; 1980--Newport, Bangkok; 1984--Newport; 1986--Bristol
FINALIST (8): 1973--South Orange; 1974--Tempe; 1976--St. Louis WCT; 1978--Cologne; 1980--WCT Invitational, Milan, WCT Challenge Cup; 1983--Stowe

DOUBLES CAREER TITLES (13): 1974--Columbus, Bombay; 1975--Atlanta WCT, Los Angeles; 1976--Memphis WCT; 1977--London / Queen's Club, Masters Doubles WCT; 1978--Mexico City; 1980--Rotterdam, Frankfurt; 1982--Chicago-2 WCT; 1983--Newport; 1986--Newport
FINALIST (15): 1973--New Delhi; 1974--South Orange; 1975--Toronto Indoor WCT, Washington Indoor WCT, Louisville, Calcutta; 1977--St. Louis WCT, Rotterdam; 1979--Cairo, Sydney Indoor, Louisville; 1981--Columbus; 1982--Baltimore WCT; 1983--Columbus; 1984--Stockholm
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yep... vijay had the moves... ramesh krishnan was another gift to the game...

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Jerome Golmard
Height: 6'2'' (187 cm)
Weight: 170 lbs (77 kg)
Best South African Airways ATP Ranking: 22 (26-Apr-99)
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Singles Record: 144 - 143
Singles Titles: 2



Golmard was awesome, very fast shots with short stance. Against Agassi in 1995 he was very young in AO he was destroyed by a goofy Agassi 2-6 3-6 1-6. That year he beat a young Kuerten at Medellin CH.At indianapolis beat Courier. His best tennis was found in 1999, he won Dubai beating Kucera, Henman, Moya, Kiefer, reached SF at Monte Carlo, and won Chennai.
Lost on DC against Kuerten on clay. Beat Norman in 2000, beat Agassi at Cincy. Reached Umag final in 2001, and Auckland in 2002. Beat Ivanisevic in AO on 2002. Never did well on Grand Slams however (R32 best result). Has a 2-6 against Kuerten.

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A request to the "older" people , Could you describe me these players from the past?

Plenty of them in here.

Juan Aguilera
Andrei Chesnokov
Kent Carlsson
Magnus Larsson
Mikael Pernfors
Horst Skoff
Henrik Sundstrom
Karel Novacek
Joakim Nystrom

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Like Jens Lekman, Jonas? Nice thread title.
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Slobodan Zivojinovic must get a mention
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Clavet was kind of like an ATP version of Conchita Martinez, who could really draw players into his way of playing, and frustrated players in a manner not unlike Santoro...
You've got a point but Pato, unlike Conchita, didn't really have the potential to be a greatest. No Pato's coach ever said, like all Conchita's coaches did, that he'd be a n.1 if he'd only be arsed.
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The 'German Gigolo" Bernd Karbacher, there was a man of the people.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Alberto Berasategui



Country: Spain
Birth: 28 June 1973
Height: 1.72 m (5 ft 7+1⁄2 in)
Weight: 65 kg (140 lb; 10.2 st)
Pro: 1991 - 2001
Career prize money: US$4,676,187
Singles Career record: 278–199
Highest ranking: No. 7 (14 November 1994)
Career titles: 14 (all on clay)

True claycourt specialist, he played and won all the clay giants of his era (Bruguera, Muster, Courier, ...) Short and with no obvious gifts, he made a nice career out of his limited talents. His ultra-extreme-western grip allowed him hit BH and a very wicked FH with the same side of the racket. He broke havoc on RG 94. He lives in Barcelona, where he's got real estate interests and plays golf with Cruyff, and is Vice President of the Federación Vasca de Tenis.
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Alberto Berasategui
His ultra-extreme-western grip allowed him hit BH and a very wicked FH with the same side of the racket.
Saw him play live, unreal grip, good old days...

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There are going to be some big copy/paste jobs coming up.

Carsten Arriens

Here was a character this guy managed to lose 6-0 6-0 to Rusedski in 29 minutes at Sydney and Rusedski was very bemused by the result as well.

He also got disqualified from RG for throwing his racquet and hit an official.

Now he coaches Andy Beck.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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