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Honour roll: players overruling line calls in favour of opponent

Always heartwarming to see, if the match is close enough to make it meaningful. Latest (Munich, 2009-5-5, as reported in a post on AndyMurray.com):
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Hewitt was serving for the match against Petzschner and had MP, Petz goes long but Hewitt contests it and gives him the point. Petz goes on to break back and take the 2nd set
However this account is disputed: some say umpire overruled & Hewitt argued with that. (I didn't see it.) More below.

A classic from Roddick in 2005 which actually did cost him the match, as reported in Sports Illustrated:
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Last Wednesday, in the round of sixteen at the Rome Masters, Fernando Verdasco of Spain was serving to America's top player, Andy Roddick. Verdasco had lost the first set and was down 5-3, love-40 -- triple match point. After he hit deep on the second serve, the line judge called the ball out and Roddick had the match.

Only, Roddick refused to accept the point. Verdasco's serve had nicked the line, he said. Stunned, the umpire let Roddick overrule him. Verdasco then fought back, held serve, won the set and then the match.

Probably you heard nothing about this display of generosity; it barely rated a mention in the American press. Yet Roddick risked -- and lost -- tens of thousands of dollars in a tournament where he was seeded first simply because he felt obliged to be honest.

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Re: Role of honour: players overruling line calls in favour of opponent

Let the Roddick flame fest begin.

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Re: Role of honour: players overruling line calls in favour of opponent

Lots of players do this, the majority are honest.

Wilander overruled a call when he was match up point up against Clerc in the semi finals of RG.

Moya has done it numerous times. Rafter was another one who refused to take a bad call against Cherkasov and he lost the match.

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Lots of players do this, the majority are honest.

Wilander overruled a call when he was match up point up against Clerc in the semi finals of RG.

Moya has done it numerous times. Rafter was another one who refused to take a bad call against Cherkasov and he lost the match.
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Safin's done it numerous times too.

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Re: Role of honour: players overruling line calls in favour of opponent

I don't know why I missed this story in 2005, thanks.

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Re: Role of honour: players overruling line calls in favour of opponent

Hewitt was already on his way to the net to shake Petzschner's hand, the chair umpire overruled.
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Re: Role of honour: players overruling line calls in favour of opponent

The Hewitt one is a subject of controversy in the match thread here on MTF:
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Amazing sportsmanship from Hewitt in the second set when he was leading 6-2, 5-4 40-15. Petzschner seemingly play's the ball long, Linesman calls out - match over, Petzchner comes to the net to shake Hewitt's hand, Hewitt starts to walk towards the net but wants another look at the line. Hewitt calls umpire over and insists that Petzchner be awarded the point as he thinks it touched. Dazed looks from Petzchner and umpire as Hewitt concedes the point.
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Are you crazy? He didn't do that at all. Hewitt said it was long.

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It's not that honorable on clay, because they just save the umpire from coming down and checking the mark.
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Nadal also did that once at MP against Calleri in Costa do Sauipe, 2005. Nadal would have won the match in straights, but he overruled it in Calleri's favour. Calleri ended up winning that second set, but lost the third. I remember the match ended past 2 AM local time. Nadal went on to win the title.

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It's not that honorable on clay, because they just save the umpire from coming down and checking the mark.
Not so, in cases such as today's (by comm's accounts), where everyone else was going to accept the "out" call. If Hewitt says nothing, match is over.
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Re: Honour roll: players overruling line calls in favour of opponent

I remember the roddick-verdasco match, can't believe it's already been 4 years
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Re: Honour roll: players overruling line calls in favour of opponent

Federer tried to hook on a call against Nadal in final tie-breaker of that epic Rome final, not good Roger
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Re: Honour roll: players overruling line calls in favour of opponent

Federer gave Wawrinka his first serve back when it was called long when Wawa was serving for the match. Thought that was pretty nice.

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Federer tried to hook on a call against Nadal in final tie-breaker of that epic Rome final, not good Roger
Tried a search to find out what this means, got a reference (post-Rome 2005):

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Roger: Hi Rafa

Rafa: *thinks about one-dimensional comments, coaching complaints, try to hook on a call.... and looks away* Go n greet your momma, crying baby


but no explanation. So... what's hooking?
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Re: Honour roll: players overruling line calls in favour of opponent

Djokovic gave Roddick an ace in their match in Dubai last year but I think he said afterwards that it was because he hadn't heard the umpire call it out.
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