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Madrid surface

I have talked to a few people that just played in some of the exterior courts.

According to them, they're pretty slow and low bounce, not like Rome, more like Hamburg. They say, it's probably because of the high humidity of the river and the artificial lake and channels surrounding the complex. Temperature is a few degrees colder than the average in the city.

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So Rafa-Nole like Hamburg 2008

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So Rafa-Nole like Hamburg 2008
Wow, I didn't think it that way, cool .

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So Rafa-Nole like Hamburg 2008
And good for Roger too.

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Re: Madrid surface

I'm surprised they picked a slow and low bouncing surface. That type of clay is least favorite to Rafa but we'll see what happens. Rafa is usually tired by the time he gets to Hamburg.
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if its not high bouncing then rafa should skip it in protest and tell madrid organisers to change surface to suit his game or he wont play. just pay the fine. all surfaces should change to suit rafa's game, because rafa is tennis and tennis is rafa. even us open need to change to suit rafa's game, everyone should bend over to rafa. they should feel privileged to be in the same court as lord rafa.
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if its not high bouncing then rafa should skip it in protest and tell madrid organisers to change surface to suit his game or he wont play. just pay the fine. all surfaces should change to suit rafa's game, because rafa is tennis and tennis is rafa. even us open need to change to suit rafa's game, everyone should bend over to rafa. they should feel privileged to be in the same court as lord rafa.
Not what I'm saying. It's in Spain so you would think they would cater to Nadal. Similar to what most countries do for their top player. lol
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Who cares?
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Surface could be slower than molasses...it won't matter the balls will be traveling through the air faster than lightening due the elevation.

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Re: Madrid surface

Not that I'm questioning Bazooka's sources, but I would be extremely surprised if the surface isn't more similar to Monte-carlo than Rome.

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Not that I'm questioning Bazooka's sources, but I would be extremely surprised if the surface isn't more similar to Monte-carlo than Rome.
You may very well be right, after all I know nothing of the inner courts which will hold the real tournament. However the humidity thing makes sense, the whole complex is adjacent to Manzanares river.

About altitude, well, I am not an expert but I think the effect is overrated. As a player I suck but never could find any difference between Madrid and the coast

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I thought the slower, better for Rafa. That's why he suck on carpet.

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I thought the slower, better for Rafa. That's why he suck on carpet.
On what carpet?

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I thought the slower, better for Rafa. That's why he suck on carpet.
Carpet is very low bouncing. Nadal likes higher bouncing surfaces. But he still prefers slow over fast.
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