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Federer is not dead... far from it.

Here's why:

(1) He is still #2 and may even end the year as #2 or #3. I think it's quite an achievement that he hasn't fallen flat on his face like Hewitt, Marat Safin and others. It will interesting to see the trend followed by previous #1s.. Let's say McEnroe - he ended 1981-84 as #1, 85 as #2, went down to #14 in 86. I think it's safe to say that Federer won't be #14 anytime soon.

(2) Is he really a mental midget or is it simply his serve? One can argue that you need mental strength to get high 1st service percentage but the same goes the other way around. What if he found to way to significantly improve his serve? Wouldn't that automatically improve other aspects of his game and consequently remove his mental midgetness?

(3) It's quite possible that he will win a GS and/or a Master's event this year or early next year. If that happens, we're likely to see a mini-resurgence. Sure, he is past his prime years, but as I said before, he has already proven that he is not going to go away easily.

Maybe we should hold off on threads like "How will Roger be remembered?", "15>14", "Does anyone else really enjoy watching the demise of Federer?", etc. They're a little premature IMO.
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Re: Federer is not dead... far from it.

Record this year: 21-6 with 0 titles

He may not be "dead" but this is HORRIBLE! It's a huge drop down. Plus he has tons of points to defend from last year, so he will probably continue going down... He's done. It doesn't mean that he won't have some great results from time to time! But anyways with the baby coming, and with Nadal/Murray beating him easily, I think he might call it quits sooner than we think. He will find the excuse that he "wants to focuse on his wife & kid" but everyone would know that it's because he knows he can't win another grandslam anymore and can't compete with the new elite players.
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This is true, if he were dead he would cease to breathe and may in fact be buried below a layer of dirt and or stone.

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This is true, if he were dead he would cease to breathe and may in fact be buried below a layer of dirt and or stone.
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i thought this thread was about his marriage...

nevermind then.
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or ashes.

what you said is really pathetic... talking about "Federer's death" as a joke is quite pathetic

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I think Federer can still win at least 2 grand slams because 1) Rafa could be injured at any given moment and 2) For some reason, he is best at the US open because it's the end of a long season and grinders like Rafa, Nole, and Murray seem tired by then
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Sure..that's why those grinders made it to the semifinals and final
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^^ Are you stupid? Just because they are tired doesn't mean they have to lose in the 1st round in order for my point to be valid. Stop taking my post and exaggerrating the meaning of it and then post a reply on your misinterpretation of my post.
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what you said is really pathetic... talking about "Federer's death" as a joke is quite pathetic
being a rafa fan is quite pathetic, why don't you jump off a cliff.
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Every Match between Fed and the top 4 this years has gone the full distance. He may trun things around any moment now... be patient...

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Record this year: 21-6 with 0 titles

He may not be "dead" but this is HORRIBLE! It's a huge drop down. Plus he has tons of points to defend from last year, so he will probably continue going down... He's done. It doesn't mean that he won't have some great results from time to time! But anyways with the baby coming, and with Nadal/Murray beating him easily, I think he might call it quits sooner than we think. He will find the excuse that he "wants to focuse on his wife & kid" but everyone would know that it's because he knows he can't win another grandslam anymore and can't compete with the new elite players.
I agree with the Thread starter that all this "It's Over" talk is very premature. No he hasn't won any titles this year but same as last year at this point he had only won in Estoril.The year before that even he only had 2 titles as this point. He also made the final in the Australian Open losing to Nadal which was anything but easy for Nadal. Neither Murray or Djokovic have been able to take out Fed in straights this year so i don't think anyones beating easily at this stage.

It's true he's not as dominate or as confident as he once was but that doesn;t make him a mental midget. He's just not playing the big points like he once was. Talking about retirement is just absurd.
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I agree with the Thread starter that all this "It's Over" talk is very premature. No he hasn't won any titles this year but same as last year at this point he had only won in Estoril.The year before that even he only had 2 titles as this point. He also made the final in the Australian Open losing to Nadal which was anything but easy for Nadal. Neither Murray or Djokovic have been able to take out Fed in straights this year so i don't think anyones beating easily at this stage.

It's true he's not as dominate or as confident as he once was but that doesn;t make him a mental midget. He's just not playing the big points like he once was. Talking about retirement is just absurd.
Well, it's up to him... He can either retire now with some sort of dignity, or he can end up with records of 6-26 against Nadal losing several other grandslam finals to him and 2-12 against Murray and ruin his chances of ever being called the greatest. Didn't Borg retire because he realized he couldn't win the big matches anymore with opponents like McEnroe? Federer is almost in the same situation. Plus Federer has a child coming soon, so he has the perfect excuse to use!
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Rumors about Roger's death have been greatly exaggerated.

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Record this year: 21-6 with 0 titles

He may not be "dead" but this is HORRIBLE!

0 titles isn't good but his 21:6 record is not horrible. He has already reached a Slam final this year after all.
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