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Gustavo Kuerten(2000) vs Novak Djokovic(2009), who wins?

On all surfaces.

Kuerten had a superb attacking game on clay while Djokovic, certainly recently, has played his best tennis on the red stuff.

On hard courts while Guga never won a slam, he won the TMC and beat guys like Sampras, Hewitt and Agassi. Djokovic's best scalps are Federer, Nadal and Murray. Close to call.

On grass Guga reached the last eight at Wimbledon while Djokovic has reached the last four, albeit in a weaker grass era.

Who would dominate this match up on surfaces, ability and tactics?
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Re: Gustavo Kuerten(2000) vs Novak Djokovic(2009), who wins?

on clay: Guga
on hard: Djoker
on grass: right now, with the slower courts, Guga

so, to me, it's 2-1 Guga

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Re: Gustavo Kuerten(2000) vs Novak Djokovic(2009), who wins?

Guga would never beat Faker on grass.

He'd beat him on hard courts, though.

I gotta say it's a bit of heresy comparing them.
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Re: Gustavo Kuerten(2000) vs Novak Djokovic(2009), who wins?

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Guga would never beat Faker on grass.

He'd beat him on hard courts, though.

I gotta say it's a bit of heresy comparing them.
Agreed. Guga is better by a distance, I did a thread with Rios and Rafito a while back and everyone said Nadal would always win.. current eratards are the most annoying tard at the moment.
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Re: Gustavo Kuerten(2000) vs Novak Djokovic(2009), who wins?

Clay: Kuerten.
Hard: Djokovic.
Grass: Djokovic.

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Re: Gustavo Kuerten(2000) vs Novak Djokovic(2009), who wins?

Not because I´m Brazilian but the Guga of 2000/2001 could have a chance to beat even Federer of 2004/2005 in a Master Series in a Hard Court. Cincinatti 2001 and Masters 2000 were very strong performances.

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Re: Gustavo Kuerten(2000) vs Novak Djokovic(2009), who wins?

Guga beat Sampras and Agassi on hard courts.

He'd school Faker.

Beating clowns like Ferrer is absolutely different. Weak era.
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Re: Gustavo Kuerten(2000) vs Novak Djokovic(2009), who wins?

Kuerten on clay obviously
On HC i'm not so sure 50-50
On the shit grass of today Kuerten too
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With the slowing down of HC guga would have the necessary time for his BH so I could see him beating fakervic.
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Guga beat Sampras and Agassi on hard courts.

He'd school Faker.

Beating clowns like Ferrer is absolutely different. Weak era.
Ferrer is not a clown
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Re: Gustavo Kuerten(2000) vs Novak Djokovic(2009), who wins?

Slow hardcourts are not advantageous to either player in my opinion.

Last thing Djokovic likes are quick courts that stop him playing his baseline grind game.
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Re: Gustavo Kuerten(2000) vs Novak Djokovic(2009), who wins?

Kuerten would be lucky to win a set off Djokovic on grass. It was common knowledge he didn't like the surface.
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Kuerten would be lucky to win a set off Djokovic on grass. It was common knowledge he didn't like the surface.
Yeah and Djokovic is stellar on grass. He moves on it like it's quicksand.

Guga would probably do well in this weak grass era if he played in it now.
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Slow hardcourts are not advantageous to either player in my opinion.

Last thing Djokovic likes are quick courts that stop him playing his baseline grind game.
You are probably right but I was looking at it from Guga perspective.
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Re: Gustavo Kuerten(2000) vs Novak Djokovic(2009), who wins?

Grass in 2000 is way different than the grass of 2009, Guga would have done it well in there with the current speed

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