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Gonzo V Pete Sampras on clay

Which is the better clay courter?

Both have a big forehand
Both have a less consistant backhand which is capable of the odd amazing winner
Petes serve is bigger
Movement in defence similar
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Interesting to know peoples opinions on this because IMO both have had/had/are having similar clay court results throughout their careers.
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Re: Gonzo V Pete Sampras on clay

oh please...

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good thread, would read again.
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Re: Gonzo V Pete Sampras on clay

Why was my post about Oliver Cromwell deleted? Are you a royalist, post-deleting mod?
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Don't recall Gonzo ever losing to Gilbert Schaller in Roland Garros round 1 at his absolute peak.
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Don't recall Gonzo ever losing to Gilbert Schaller in Roland Garros round 1 at his absolute peak.
But, likewise, did he ever make the semis of RG or win a clay masters?

If I lose the first set, the match will be complicate, no?


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Re: Gonzo V Pete Sampras on clay

Pete made the semis and won a Masters on clay thanks to monster serving.
Gonzalez would sweep the one-dimensional clown aside.
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Pete made the semis and won a Masters on clay thanks to monster serving.
Gonzalez would sweep the one-dimensional clown aside.
Thanks to monster serving? Hmmmm. So then Roddick has made the semis of RG and won a clay masters also?

If I lose the first set, the match will be complicate, no?


My favorite Federer and Nadal quotes following their 2008 Wimbledon final:

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Re: Gonzo V Pete Sampras on clay

The only player inside the top 30 that Sampras played in his Rome victory was Becker in the final. Hardly a feat.
If Roddick had played a full clay schedule throughout his pro career until the day he retired; he'd have at least one clay masters and a couple finals.
The fact is Roddick's junkballing is far more suited to clay than Sampras' flat high-risk game.
Not to mention that the level of the game has increased ten fold since the 90s, explaining Sampras' surprising success.
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Re: Gonzo V Pete Sampras on clay

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The only player inside the top 30 that Sampras played in his Rome victory was Becker in the final. Hardly a feat.
If Roddick had played a full clay schedule throughout his pro career until the day he retired; he'd have at least one clay masters and a couple finals.
The fact is Roddick's junkballing is far more suited to clay than Sampras' flat high-risk game.
Not to mention that the level of the game has increased ten fold since the 90s, explaining Sampras' surprising success.
Whatever. People can excuse away the results all day, but at the end of the day all that remains are the results.

If I lose the first set, the match will be complicate, no?


My favorite Federer and Nadal quotes following their 2008 Wimbledon final:

“But right now, it’s not much of a how do you say? a feel-good thing.”
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Re: Gonzo V Pete Sampras on clay

And those results are only relative to that era.

Back on topic; Gonzalez is a better clay courter than Sampras.
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